# A mistake made and speaking in the height of anger **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 12, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940 "2017-09-12T21:37:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/424 "2017-09-13T08:35:50Z")
its not a bug or a glitch its about trusting a person and giving them access to alliance assets which are then stolen ---
**Author:** ![Sville\_Sveltos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sville_sveltos/32/244572_2.png) [@Sville\_Sveltos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sville_Sveltos)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/425 "2017-09-13T08:37:31Z")
Please never stop typing. ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/426 "2017-09-13T08:37:33Z")
> [@Vaari](#): > > Judge Judge is a hacker it may be in game but still… ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/427 "2017-09-13T08:38:04Z")
lol lol ---
**Author:** ![cherry\_blood](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_blood/32/154603_2.png) [@cherry\_blood](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cherry_blood)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/428 "2017-09-13T08:38:44Z")
but there are no laws making such actions in eve against the rules. eve is a sandbox GAME in which we are encouraged to explore what could happen given a different set of rules. backstabbing is part of eve. someone who might do something like this shouldn’t have a such a position of power. gigx and the community they both built brought him to this power. I doubt it was his plan all the time, or maybe it was a plan by csm to set an example of how real some ppl take this game and this is one of the first cases coming to light where there is hard proof that more than just the eula was breached. there will be more in time. and then maybe people will learn it’s a game, don’t inflict real life fear into our comrades or enemies within the world that CCP owns the IP to and can do anything at their own discretion. watch out hate mongers - the CCP banhammer is looking for you! ---
**Author:** ![Sville\_Sveltos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sville_sveltos/32/244572_2.png) [@Sville\_Sveltos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sville_Sveltos)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/429 "2017-09-13T08:38:47Z")
\<3 \<3 ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/430 "2017-09-13T08:39:17Z")
i don’t know your words so much sorry lol ---
**Author:** ![Sville\_Sveltos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sville_sveltos/32/244572_2.png) [@Sville\_Sveltos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sville_Sveltos)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/431 "2017-09-13T08:40:11Z")
It’s ok. Just keep typing. Me enjoy very much. ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/432 "2017-09-13T08:41:59Z")
not saying that against EVE im just saying how i feel . ---
**Author:** ![cherry\_blood](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_blood/32/154603_2.png) [@cherry\_blood](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cherry_blood)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/433 "2017-09-13T08:43:49Z")
ccp retains all right too all Intellectual Property within eve. the sub you pay is a rental of their IP. they can revoke the right to use their IP at any time for any or no reason at all. (mind you, they usually make sure to have a good reason I hope) the stuff the judge stole is in game money, it has no real world value in ccps eyes. so there was no RMT. what draws me to eve is the risk, there is no other game I know of that when you die you lose everything on you. you actually lose something for making mistakes. all the other mmos I can think of when you die, there is only a nominal fee to repair some stuff but you still get to keep it all. this lawlessness is what attracts people to eve. it weeds out the people that need to be spoonfed and encourages pilots to learn from their mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/434 "2017-09-13T08:49:58Z")
I don’t care what CCP says IN eula in the USA it dose not matter as people log IN USA and in east texas CCP would lose cuz its hacking end. ---
**Author:** ![cherry\_blood](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_blood/32/154603_2.png) [@cherry\_blood](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cherry_blood)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/435 "2017-09-13T08:51:14Z")
however, when you agree to the eula - you agree to letting all your rights as a us citizen away. as far as eve online is concerned you even agree that should you take them to court for any reason, it will be in a court in Iceland. the us law can’t really do antyi8ng to protect you after you agree. @Nomie_Kim_Kim you should take a real hard look at the EULA and read ALL of the words. It is a binding contract once you click accept. if you want to remain in CCP’s world, you play by their rules. Your country has absolutely no bearing on anything that happens in their world. ---
**Author:** ![Sville\_Sveltos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sville_sveltos/32/244572_2.png) [@Sville\_Sveltos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sville_Sveltos)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/436 "2017-09-13T08:52:03Z")
Don’t mess with Texas law man. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/437 "2017-09-13T08:53:03Z")
with that kind of logic you could say blowing up another players ship and taking the loot is hacking using game mechanics to steal from another player is hacking right ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/438 "2017-09-13T08:55:52Z")
Yep and im not joking CCP will be sue in till its end . ---
**Author:** ![cherry\_blood](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_blood/32/154603_2.png) [@cherry\_blood](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cherry_blood)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/439 "2017-09-13T08:57:47Z")
have fun trying to win in an Icelandic court, after you signed away all your rights by accepting the EULA. btw enjoy the 3 months sub you may win if the court finds in your favour. definitely worth the what 60$ at most you might want to start a go fundme, cause I hear ccp has really good lawyers that know Icelandic law very well. ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/440 "2017-09-13T09:01:11Z")
the game is about that /but bracken ■■■■ is not ths was only a feather after it could no be fixed Texas gives a ■■■■ about Iceland law . ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/441 "2017-09-13T09:05:51Z")
what couldnt be fixed the feature isnt broken it was designed to work the way it does when you give someone access to corp assets you run the risk of them stealing the assets thats all on the player and and has nothing to do with exploiting bugs ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/442 "2017-09-13T09:06:06Z")
ya it all good in Iceland but USA players can sue /and if you think not look it up in us . ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/443 "2017-09-13T09:06:12Z")
Well… The story told this way looks very similar to Erotica1 case… Maybe they should have the same outcome too (permaban of Ero1 and The Judge) ? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940.md?page=23)