# A New Challenge to High Sec Gankers

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 6, 2022, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583 "2022-08-06T04:09:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/21 "2022-08-07T20:17:57Z")

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If you had to become suspect to steal from ESS and it was a fairly long process to grab the ISK successfully (not sure how long it takes in null) and maybe even can look up in the agency window which nearby systems have their ESS bank challenged (in the process of being taken) then it might bring some fun action to HS. Would have to see in practice.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/22 "2022-08-07T20:18:28Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> (not sure how long it takes in null)

5 min 30 seconds or something around there. Sounds interesting but then imagine everyone in high sec leaving for low sec just to get away from it…! wait that’s genius implement it! Intaki really are the best thinkers.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/23 "2022-08-07T20:19:19Z")

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Oh that’s pretty small window for HS it should be like 30 mins or something imo.

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**Author:** ![Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shower_ben_dover/32/329433_2.png) [@Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shower_Ben_Dover)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/24 "2022-08-07T20:31:28Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Oh that’s pretty small window for HS it should be like 30 mins or something imo..

Why? they need to defend and not just risk free mission run. Should be 1 minute tops.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/25 "2022-08-07T20:34:05Z")

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Well I was thinking this would be used to create PvP specifically so didn’t (nor do I 😛 ) really care for the mission runners themselves. Instead this could be a new profession with dedicated heist groups or even solo players and hunters going after them. Other people’s priorities might be different though which I understand.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/26 "2022-08-07T20:56:47Z")

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Too lazy.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/27 "2022-08-07T23:21:58Z")

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> [@ResonanceOfWar](#):
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> The corruption has spread to far.

Contagious? Should more be worried? Could it really mean make mission running inside _Faction War zones_ great from now on?

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/28 "2022-08-07T23:25:09Z")

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Please no, nothing needs to be great again just awesome is fine.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/29 "2022-08-07T23:26:46Z")

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You know what this will lead to right? Do they have wind of it yet? Should we spoil it for them?

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/30 "2022-08-07T23:30:45Z")

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Who’s going to pay for it thou.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/31 "2022-08-07T23:35:12Z")

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Everybody, as there is nothing worse than showing up at a mission site then ungrouping your guns/launchers to . . . . . the npc’s forcing a tag in your favor.

That is how real ganking started and it was a result of two pve pilots fighting over the same rat long ago.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/32 "2022-08-08T00:16:51Z")

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Nobody said anything about High Sec ESS systems. But they would be a good idea. Belt ratters an Combat sites would be where the ISK comes from for the ESS. Not as much as Null but good enough to get a High Sec ESS raider ready for Null.

A silent partner would provide the ISK for the Reserve Bank, someone who wants to see the local pirates kept out of everyone’s way.

- would lose security status + 15 minute FY for attempting to raid the Main Bank -.25 of point each time, for 5 minutes
- raiding the Reserve Bank would see the player turn FR for 15 minutes + loss in security status, -.50 point loss for each minute up to -10.00
- no warp bubble
- Keys would be found in Low Sec in sites similar to the Null Sec ESS but not as difficult
- no more than 25 million ISK could be looted within the 5 minute Main Bank timer
- no more than 125 million ISK could be looted within the 15 minute Reserve Bank Timer
- would randomly appear in different High Sec systems

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/33 "2022-08-08T00:32:36Z")

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A New Challenge To High Sec Carebears

![giphy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/2/12da0b8698db582b46499c3c9889cc3525d22ca2.gif)

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/34 "2022-08-08T00:34:09Z")

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📢 Boooooooo!

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/35 "2022-08-08T02:49:26Z")

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> [@ResonanceOfWar](#):
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> Please no, nothing needs to be great again just awesome is fine.

But isn’t “awesome” gooder than “great?”

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/36 "2022-08-08T07:40:32Z")

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Great used to mean more thou, like if you say a great conqueror compared to an awesome conqueror, but yea I think it might have switched already.

I think the times we live in the natural order of things can be degraded by a single person to the point where words change meaning and loose all power.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/37 "2022-08-08T08:18:36Z")

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I thought Great meant big

and Awesome means it has some Aw

If it has so much aw its full of it, its Awful.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/38 "2022-08-08T12:42:27Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> If it has so much aw its full of it, its Awful.

Well, that explains EvE.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/39 "2022-08-08T12:48:57Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> If it has so much aw its full of it, its Awful.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/f/e/dfeb7554453d2c52f52cc02fe6d0e3fe7fd8f366.jpeg "Dick Emery You Are Awful") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vawBiuGHq1c)

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-challenge-to-high-sec-gankers/372583/40 "2022-08-09T02:47:34Z")

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Best to create your own challenge for those high sec gankers!

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