# A new IGS Renovation

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [June 20, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662 "2017-06-20T13:42:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kul\_Shaishi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kul_shaishi/32/245841_2.png) [@kul\_Shaishi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kul_Shaishi)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/43 "2017-06-20T19:05:57Z")

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🀄

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/44 "2017-06-20T19:08:56Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> Uh … you realize you’re preemptively posting all this before she even seems to have found this forum, right?

Well, enemies of the State aren’t sleeping, it seems, and already fill the new forum with their pathetic propaganda with lies about Caldari personnel. It comes from the people who are already familiar by their offenses and slanders. Their behavior is expected, and I would just recommend to keep in mind to avoid paying attention at their provocation and lies.

I don’t remember any of these two persons saying anything about me that didn’t contain a lie.

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**Author:** ![kul\_Shaishi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kul_shaishi/32/245841_2.png) [@kul\_Shaishi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kul_Shaishi)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/45 "2017-06-20T19:11:02Z")

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@Diana_Kim You are made out of a lies 🐉 🇨🇳

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/46 "2017-06-20T19:12:45Z")

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… well … I guess their remarks are apropos now, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/47 "2017-06-20T19:22:42Z")

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> [@kul\_Shaishi](#):
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> @Diana_Kim You are made out of a lies 🐉 🇨🇳

Accusation without a proof is called a slander.

And also this is a reason why diplomacy with Federation and its supporters can’t be fruitful, while you resolve to such approach together with your friends Makoto Priano and Veikitamo Gesakaarin.

I’ll keep doing my job and you can’t do anything to stop me. And very soon you all three will perish under Caldari Navy boots.

Also, have a good jam.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/48 "2017-06-20T19:23:28Z")

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I suppose there’s still time for them to fix the atrocious design choices. Not that it’ll make much difference given the ability to embed images, video and so on. It’s been tried before in many places similar to this and it has never gone well.

Imagine if you will, the old IGS - that is, the ‘new’ old IGS, not the original version most of us probably don’t even remember - as the barrier to entry. It’s been firmly placed at zero elevation, mostly allowing passage without anyone even knowing it was there.

Now imagine this place plowing underground at terminal velocity. Calling it now.

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**Author:** ![kul\_Shaishi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kul_shaishi/32/245841_2.png) [@kul\_Shaishi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kul_Shaishi)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/49 "2017-06-20T19:25:35Z")

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You have been a threat to the state for decades

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Galente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_galente/32/383984_2.png) [@Jason\_Galente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Galente)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/50 "2017-06-20T19:39:09Z")

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This is going to take a while to get used to… also, I wouldn’t hold your breathe with regards to content quality improving. The layout is even more like those quip-oriented social media networks, and the people are much the same as ever.

With this look, I’m half-expecting a selfie to end up on this thread.

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/51 "2017-06-20T19:40:10Z")

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so far so good i guess. I can’t complain.

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/52 "2017-06-20T19:41:55Z")

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> [@Jason\_Galente](#):
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> I’m half-expecting a selfie to end up on this thread.

[![](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/meta.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/96/386231_2.png) ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/meta.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/96/386231_2.png)

blammo

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Galente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_galente/32/383984_2.png) [@Jason\_Galente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Galente)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/53 "2017-06-20T19:42:22Z")

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Please don’t.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Galente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_galente/32/383984_2.png) [@Jason\_Galente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Galente)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/54 "2017-06-20T19:42:56Z")

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That’s a portrait, not a selfie.

Don’t be lazy.

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/55 "2017-06-20T19:44:32Z")

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> [@Jason\_Galente](#):
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> Don’t be lazy.

_make me_

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/56 "2017-06-20T19:50:48Z")

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This one suffers badly from the modern design choices where they leave in a bunch of information that’s _occasionally_ useful, but mostly just distractions that could be hidden under scroll-overs or other such means of minimizing clutter, while removing a lot of useful delineation and readability design.

Scroll through this thread and see how much more your eyes need to work to keep track of who/what/where/when than the old. Note the lack of corp/alliance tags. Note the poor user portraits. Note the poor delineation between (potentially) useful/interesting content and distractions.

There’s certainly potential here, should the powers that be actually sit down and do some decent design work, but as it stands this is a severe downgrade in terms of usability, readability, navigation and usefulness as an asynchronous communications platform.

Right now it’s just fallen victim to ‘modern galnet design’ which has been the bane of galnet for some time now.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/57 "2017-06-20T19:53:22Z")

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> [@kul\_Shaishi](#):
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> You have been a threat to the state for decades

Actually, while you are spreading your slanders and lies about me on forums, I’ve been killing occupants and invaders, protecting space of Caldari State.

Were they your friends? You can go cry over their wrecks.

Or maybe you will dare to come here yourself and face me in your ship? I’ll gladly send you with your ship in direction I send all enemies of Caldari State. By parts.

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**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/58 "2017-06-20T19:54:58Z")

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Boooo! Change is baaad!

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/59 "2017-06-20T19:56:15Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> I’ve been killing occupants and invaders, protecting space of Caldari State.

Really? I’ve been plexing your home system out of boredom and have yet to see you undock…

Don’t mind me, just testing out quoting…  
😉

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/60 "2017-06-20T19:59:08Z")

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Change is neither good nor bad on its own. Like I said, there’s potential here. Some of the features are quite nice. This doesn’t change that some other changes are quite demonstrably not, and there’s quite a lot of things that didn’t need to be removed, and other things that could vastly improve the user experience.

Did you have any actual argument against this, or is this just the usual ‘boo hiss’ when someone points out fixable problems?

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**Author:** ![Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhoxy_runekin/32/415798_2.png) [@Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhoxy_Runekin)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/61 "2017-06-20T20:03:31Z")

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People are just always upset when Spacebook updates. you’ll get used to it, like YulaiTube.

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**Author:** ![Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhoxy_runekin/32/415798_2.png) [@Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhoxy_Runekin)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-new-igs-renovation/3662/62 "2017-06-20T20:05:16Z")

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BESIDES! look at these cute little furrier emotes!  
:parrotdad: :fiestaparrot: :sassyparrot:

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