# A Open Letter to CCP and Players, changes need to be made for good **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 2, 2022, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623 "2022-09-02T07:36:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/105 "2022-09-06T18:30:02Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > > [@Shower\_Ben\_Dover](#): > > > > Its always the “peaceful” grindbears that send me messages about cutting my throat, die of cancer, etc etc after our highsec interactions… > > You too? > > I’ve gotten them in high sec, and in low from the FW LP farmers. > > I think they are funny. But it does leave me wondering, certain agents in [redacted] have made the claim that its people like me, you know, the ones that pvp, that are the toxic sociopaths for “causing an emotional response” and yet, they actively ignore the attempts of these carebears who try to illicit a counter emotional response in me by issuing RL death threats, curses, illness, cancer, covid, etc. Not quite a death threat, but I’m sure people here will at least get a chuckle out of this one: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/6/f26a9c2510584f8ea1c1bc85c5d842a7ab6a48fb.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/d/b/edbbcec8a324d074f24c91eded31e10b4a78be78.png) ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/106 "2022-09-06T18:48:13Z")
He blocked me as well 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/107 "2022-09-06T19:03:23Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Not quite a death threat, but I’m sure people here will at least get a chuckle out of this one: Gawd…if that’s someone’s reaction to losing a 823K ISK ship, they should maybe leave Eve before they lose a 30m ISK Moa or something. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/108 "2022-09-06T19:07:40Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > before they lose a 30m ISK Moa or something hold my beer ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/109 "2022-09-06T19:21:58Z")
On the contrary, they need to stay in Eve and keep experiencing loss. It might eventually teach them a valuable lesson that they can then apply to their real life. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/110 "2022-09-06T19:50:32Z")
Aww you missed me 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TheDopeMan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thedopeman/32/331703_2.png) [@TheDopeMan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheDopeMan)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/111 "2022-09-07T16:47:35Z")
I’m a weird, cringe piece of garbage, for saying that most of you are toxic. yep, exactly my point. thank you for verifying that. side note, it’s a public forum, i don’t need to always present well thought out, meaningful posts. However feel free to take your own advice maybe? aside from calling me names, what did you contribute exactly? another liberal unity, equality, tolerant fellow i see. ---
**Author:** ![TheDopeMan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thedopeman/32/331703_2.png) [@TheDopeMan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheDopeMan)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/112 "2022-09-07T16:57:20Z")
I could be misreading what you are saying, but what I am hearing is that you are suggesting that they learn to deal with the fact that people will take what they want. I don’t know where you are from, but where I am from, the “gankers” don’t make it home for dinner. I wouldn’t suggest any real life application here. Learn to separate video game role playing with real life. It has a function in a video game, it has none in the real world. The mindset that you or anyone else is going to teach someone something through a violent encounter won’t end well for you. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/113 "2022-09-07T16:58:42Z")
> [@TheDopeMan](#): > > where I am from, the “gankers” don’t make it home for dinner. Ok, but this is EvE Online, not wherever you are from? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/114 "2022-09-07T18:06:01Z")
> [@TheDopeMan](#): > > to teach someone something through a violent encounter You are the one who is roleplaying. There is nothing actually violent about your ship getting blown up in Eve. It is more akin to getting a parking ticket. I can imagine that some people lose their mind in real life when they get a parking ticket, which would not be healthy behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/115 "2022-09-07T18:07:33Z")
> [@TheDopeMan](#): > > I don’t know where you are from, but where I am from, the “gankers” don’t make it home for dinner. Why, what happens to them between charging your bank account and them receiving your money? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/116 "2022-09-07T19:46:21Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > people lose their mind in real life when they get a parking ticket, which would not be healthy behavior. People loose their minds in real life when they loose a pixilated spaceship in low sec. I kid you not. I’ve gotten death threats for pvping in low! Mostly from entitled FW LP farmers and the odd new player that wanders into low sec and fails to carefully read the warning that pops up on their screen. “I don’t read those! I’ve been ignoring it. Why would kill a noob? Because it’s an easy target? You’re so bad at pvp you have to kill new players, yadda yadda yadda.” It’s low sec. My personal philosophy, you cease to be a noob the moment you jump out of a starter system. And instead of asking questions, or even listening (where I would be more likely to replace the ship with a bit of extra isk to get then back on their feet with a bunch of links on how to eve better and survive in low) they just melt down and issue death threats. It’s insane. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/117 "2022-09-07T19:48:59Z")
They give you death threats and whatnot just for shooting the rats in a hisec anomaly they were there before you’ve arrived. (Too lazy to find the link to my related post but that’s the sum of it.) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/118 "2022-09-07T19:51:17Z")
OMG! I forgot about that! Jumping into a combat anomaly and sniping the loot drop out from under them, or more infuriating to them, ninja looting it! I used to do that, back in my ninja salvaging days\* \*which, TBF are still here, but only when I want to switch things up. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/119 "2022-09-07T19:52:37Z")
Wasn’t even that just some regular rats. (So not the commander spawn.) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/120 "2022-09-07T19:57:33Z")
Uggh. This game really isn’t for some people. Also, I’ve been meaning to Eve-mail, and get the low down on how to pick up some of your kill right contracts. Something that I haven’t done but would like to try. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/121 "2022-09-07T20:00:23Z")
- Run a locator on them. - Get to the same grid as them. - Click their ship so it is shown as the selected item which will show a crosshair icon through which you can activate the killright. - Lock them then activate killright and scram them immediately once they become suspect due to the activation. - Pew pew them. That’s it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/122 "2022-09-07T20:01:11Z")
I don’t have to pay the amount listed and You don’t have to transfer the kill right to me? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/123 "2022-09-07T20:02:09Z")
You have to pay the amount to activate. It is made available to all so anyone and everyone can activate it. > **[Kill Rights](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203208922-Kill-Rights)** > > Kill rights are a pilot's chance of retribution and are provided in cases where they have been wronged by another individual in the eyes of CONCORD. This means that if a pilot has performed an ille... That is why my thread’s title is “`public` killright office”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623/124 "2022-09-07T20:08:05Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > They give you death threats and whatnot just for shooting the rats in a hisec anomaly they were there before you’ve arrived. I’ve had someone curse at me for mining ‘their’ asteroid. Never mind that they’d just sucked the entire belt clean with their Orca and I was just in my piddling Venture. Next time this happens I’ll be giving Aiko’s crew co-ordinates. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-open-letter-to-ccp-and-players-changes-need-to-be-made-for-good/375623.md?page=7)