# A Point of Clarification for ISD Buldath 🛡 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 10, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239 "2018-03-10T04:58:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Grand\_Design](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_design/32/81842_2.png) [@Grand\_Design](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Design)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/1 "2018-03-10T04:58:05Z")
I should have grabbed that screen faster: [https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-continuing-indifference-to-sexism-and-mysogniny/62235/6?u=grand\_design](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-continuing-indifference-to-sexism-and-mysogniny/62235/6?u=grand_design) You just deleted an important part of it. The fact is that my OP was asking the “community” what they thought about those names. It’s not a violation to post another players name in the forums. Deleting every little thing that you don’t agree with is hardly a fair way to do your job. [https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-these-character-names-be-allowed/62127](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-these-character-names-be-allowed/62127) I don’t think I’m even allowed to say whether or not I filed a ticket. Do you guys really want to be know for denying free speech at every turn? ---
**Author:** ![Quelza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quelza/32/36089_2.png) [@Quelza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quelza)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/2 "2018-03-10T04:58:57Z")
Christ… ---
**Author:** ![Grand\_Design](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_design/32/81842_2.png) [@Grand\_Design](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Design)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/3 "2018-03-10T05:08:00Z")
Continuing the discussion from [🎀 Should These Character Names be Allowed? 🎀](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-these-character-names-be-allowed/62127/88): > [@ribbon Should These Character Names be Allowed? ribbon](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-these-character-names-be-allowed/62127/88): > > This thread is a problem and has been closed, and OP’s Post Wiped. > > If you have problems with a characters name, please file a support ticket and let CCP Support handle it. Thank you. > > ~Buldath So, you’re telling me that I would have to go through thousands of names and submit a ticket for each? How about we just change the standard? On one hand, you’re telling me to HTFU and on the other, you won’t let me express my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/4 "2018-03-10T05:11:29Z")
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**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/389247_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/5 "2018-03-10T05:12:20Z")
> [@Grand\_Design](#): > > You just deleted an important part of it. The fact is that my OP was asking the “community” what they thought about those names. It’s not a violation to post another players name in the forums. Deleting every little thing that you don’t agree with is hardly a fair way to do your job. I totally agree with you here @Grand_Design. > [@Grand\_Design](#): > > Do you guys really want to be know for denying free speech at every turn? I also wonder about the way that they seem to immediately suppress any discussion which highlights anything which casts CCP in an unfavourable light, rather than acknowledging the concern and responding to it in a positive, learning-based way and making changes to improve things in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/389247_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/6 "2018-03-10T05:13:22Z")
> [@Grand\_Design](#): > > So, you’re telling me … to go through thousands of names and submit a ticket for each? How about we just change the standard? Quite! ---
**Author:** ![Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortexo_vonbrenner/32/64874_2.png) [@Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortexo_VonBrenner)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/7 "2018-03-10T05:16:44Z")
Ah, the ol’ mah free speech appeal…well alrighty then. Free speech _does not_ apply to private property controlled by an entity not the (U.S.) government, sorry. Now would you guys stop with the emotionally-based freakouts that compel me to defend CCP? It’s making me feel strange. (and won’t somebody think of the children?) ---
**Author:** ![Grand\_Design](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_design/32/81842_2.png) [@Grand\_Design](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Design)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/8 "2018-03-10T05:19:03Z")
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**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/389247_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/9 "2018-03-10T05:21:34Z")
Brilliant @Grand_Design. I love it when people are caught out by stuff like this. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Kenneth\_Endashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenneth_endashi/32/256217_2.png) [@Kenneth\_Endashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenneth_Endashi)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/10 "2018-03-10T05:24:36Z")
Forum activity has slowed to a trickle. If the forums were an old man, they would wake up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. It looks awful, it goes by its own set of rules having nothing to do with the game, and from what I’m hearing, is moderated by real hall-monitor types. The same kinda people who would become police, if only they were more athletic. I agree with you dude, these forums SUCK. I would like to add they don’t represent Eve Online. These forums belong to some free-to-play iPhone MMO, not a gaming institution like Eve Online. I mean this ■■■■ is a downgrade, yo! One year later, I’m seriously unimpressed. ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/11 "2018-03-10T05:25:54Z")
To the OP and his sock puppet alt… doesn’t it get tiring having to log in to alt, post, log out, log in to main, post, log out, rinse repeat? I’m impressed that you can keep it up. I would have bored of it a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Grand\_Design](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_design/32/81842_2.png) [@Grand\_Design](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Design)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/12 "2018-03-10T05:26:06Z")
> [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](#): > > Brilliant @Grand_Design. Thanks. They did say “with a view to relaxing things and promoting more open and liberal discussion”. ---
**Author:** ![Quelza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quelza/32/36089_2.png) [@Quelza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quelza)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/13 "2018-03-10T05:26:41Z")
Hm…you quote a post wherein CCP states that they’ve condensed 36 rules into 9. Yet you still manage to violate one of those 9 (discussion of moderation). So…gg? ---
**Author:** ![Grand\_Design](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_design/32/81842_2.png) [@Grand\_Design](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Design)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/14 "2018-03-10T05:28:20Z")
> [@Quelza](#): > > Hm…you quote a post wherein CCP states that they’ve condensed 36 rules into 9. Yet you still manage to violate one of those 9 (discussion of moderation). Did I discuss moderation? I must have slept through that part. I haven’t repeated anything that wasn’t openly posted here. ---
**Author:** ![Quelza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quelza/32/36089_2.png) [@Quelza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quelza)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/15 "2018-03-10T05:29:33Z")
Are you serious? Basically your entire opening post in this thread is a questioning of Buldath’s decision to mess with the other thread, and their methods of doing so. What is that if not textbook “discussion of moderation”? ---
**Author:** ![Grand\_Design](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_design/32/81842_2.png) [@Grand\_Design](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Design)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/16 "2018-03-10T05:33:20Z")
> [@Quelza](#): > > What is that if not textbook “discussion of moderation”? You’re delusional. I quoted him. Anyway, more from the “New Forums” Post: “In addition to this, we’re looking to shift the role of our volunteer moderators from **acting more as enforcers of the rules** to being _ambassadors to the community_ who can assist with responses to questions and issues, as well as providing a channel for feedback to CCP on common problems.” ↑ That’s not happening ↑ ---
**Author:** ![Tormirien\_Starbud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tormirien_starbud/32/56916_2.png) [@Tormirien\_Starbud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tormirien_Starbud)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/17 "2018-03-10T05:33:22Z")
This thread is going places. Not good places, bur places. ---
**Author:** ![Grand\_Design](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_design/32/81842_2.png) [@Grand\_Design](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Design)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/18 "2018-03-10T05:33:48Z")
> [@Tormirien\_Starbud](#): > > This thread is going places. Not good places, bur places. Is that a cold reference? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/19 "2018-03-10T05:34:06Z")
Stop reopening these topics. If you have aproblem with a member of isd handling the forums, file a ticket under community. My actions will be reviewed by a member of ccp staff. Closed. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-point-of-clarification-for-isd-buldath/62239/20 "2018-03-10T05:34:33Z")