# A proper leader board for the greatest PVP pilots at all levels

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**Category:** Tournament Discussion\
**Created:** [March 21, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-proper-leader-board-for-the-greatest-pvp-pilots-at-all-levels/226925 "2020-03-21T13:05:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Soldier\_Forrester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/soldier_forrester/32/404576_2.png) [@Soldier\_Forrester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Soldier_Forrester)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-proper-leader-board-for-the-greatest-pvp-pilots-at-all-levels/226925/13 "2020-04-03T11:30:31Z")

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a pre-fit Bantam tournament is way to limited, imo a huge part of becoming a great PvPer is knowing how to fit ships, how to engage different other ships and knowing engagement profiles as well as keeping a cool head in stressful situations on more complicated grids then 1v1s, which is what made the old tournament so good.

Then there is of course more to piloting then just module management and pressing orbit or keep at range. Even if you wouldn’t need more to win in a all-bantam slugfest.

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