# A question for CCP and players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** null-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 15, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985 "2019-08-15T22:37:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/21 "2019-08-16T18:19:20Z")
Really? So what kind a size does a system have to be before a Null Alliance cannot provide cover/runs out of players/alts? Bearing in mind a ship has a D-Scan Range of 14.3 AU, so 8 ships would have a sensor footprint (taking into account overlap) of around 1700+ square AU ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/22 "2019-08-16T18:22:32Z")
Tell me. Why are people logging out of the game and unsubscribing if what you say is true? Not everyone is goon scum with botting alts. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/23 "2019-08-16T18:25:20Z")
Whether what I say is true or not does not have anything to do with you guessing the reason for the Black Out and calling it true. Where is your evidence of reduced cap production? Do you have some data about any Null operations with the big blocs at all? The people who are lying about leaving are the renters and krabulons. Do keep up R2. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/24 "2019-08-16T18:27:12Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Whether what I say is true or not does not have anything to do with you guessing the reason for the Black Out and calling it true. This is called “deflection”. Its a sad attempt at validating your position. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Where is your evidence of reduced cap production? No one is talking about production, you toad. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Do you have some data about any Null operations with the big blocs at all? Yes, its called “tears of null bears” and you can locate it on the platform we are talking on right now. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > The people who are lying about leaving are the renters and krabulons. Ok, so what i said is true. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Wardeth\_Power](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wardeth_power/32/314207_2.png) [@Wardeth\_Power](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wardeth_Power)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/25 "2019-08-16T18:30:53Z")
Hey guys, I’m not sure why you’re arguing like this on the thread. I’m looking for constructive ideas and thoughts from people to see if others want Null sec population to increase and what they think the game needs in order to see that happen. Lets do a hard reset here and start over with idea’s to increase Null sec Population from people who want more pilots in null sec. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/26 "2019-08-16T18:32:39Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > This is called “deflection”. Its a sad attempt at validating your position. My position has been from the start that you are making up reasons for black out and calling them true. Now you are asked to provide proof and are in fact deflecting onto whether nullsec empires know how to use DScan. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > No one is talking about production, you toad. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > the blackout is ment to help stop the “donut”, or collection of entities into mega entities its not generally or directly related with super cap production, though as a bi-product may effect it. Better a toad than an outright liar. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Ok, so what i said is true. Got it. How does removing non aligned krabs stop the donut? > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > the blackout is ment to help stop the “donut”, or collection of entities into mega entities ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/27 "2019-08-16T18:47:30Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Now you are asked to provide proof and are in fact deflecting onto whether nullsec empires know how to use DScan. Delete Dscan, imo. Usage of alts predominately is for increase income, no defense. Very few people utilize alts in this manner. Thus, only goon scum does this (give a few). > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Better a toad than an outright liar. Interestingly, your both, and more. Im tired of your stupidity, go talk to someone else. You only reply to my posts to get attention, and im denying you that. Maybe you’ll cry some more about it. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/28 "2019-08-16T18:48:45Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > goon scum At least you admit youre biased. > [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Im tired of your stupidity, go talk to someone else. If that’s what you have to answer a simple question, you should be glad someone gives you the time of day. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/29 "2019-08-16T18:50:39Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > At least you admit your] biased. Yes, I am. And your point? More demonstration of your inferior intelligence levels. Everyone is biest, though i would not expect you to understand more intellectually inclined things like that. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/30 "2019-08-16T18:51:37Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Everyone is **biest** , though i would not expect you to understand more **intellectually** inclined things like that. You are precious. I release you for now. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/31 "2019-08-16T21:54:54Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I release you for now. Oh Small one. Don’t worry, you **might** grow up some day and maybe then you will get not smart…but.. **smarter** ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/32 "2019-08-16T23:25:57Z")
STILL waitin’ tah hear about that thing he’s been developin’. ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/33 "2019-08-17T13:32:18Z")
@Wardeth_Power super cap production is not important for the health EVE. You should tell that to you goon leaders. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/34 "2019-08-17T14:32:21Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Interestingly, your both, and more. It is you are or you’re FFS! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/35 "2019-08-17T14:43:18Z")
He actually edited a quote of mine in a mistaken attempt to correct my punctuation-less but otherwise accurate “youre” to “your”. Incorrectly. ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/36 "2019-08-17T17:13:06Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > over 50% of the wars in eve are done by 6 specific corporations, who operate in high sec. they are responsible for 100:1 kda ratio, and only 3% Of their targets ever get a kill on them. As people trinkle into high sec, there is an increase of this effect, and the result may actually end up being more in low sec. So it works out to being a personal choice in the end, if not slightly favoring low sec. Null’s best selling point on this topic is the “security” aspects of it, which will come around when null alliances learn to contract their space, and control more defendable locations. that’s not a war. not in the actual sense of the word ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/37 "2019-08-17T18:44:11Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Except it doesnt, because large Alliances dont use local for communication. local is easy intel. the amount of time i spent in null it was x person is in y system, ship unknown ive been forced to dock up or be yelled at, get fined, or get kicked out over neuts being 15 jumps away up a pipe ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/38 "2019-08-17T18:45:31Z")
Yeah, and that Im not disputing. A large alliance being unable to work around it for the same outcome was what I was disputing. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/39 "2019-08-17T20:30:55Z")
> [@Grognard\_Commissar](#): > > that’s not a war. not in the actual sense of the word This is true, and its a highly important point. The conditions of war mechanics really need to be reinvestigated. To base it on the single most important accomplishment (building your own station(s)) a corporation or alliance could make is a bad way to kill the communicable effort and sense of progression. This is a really big issue and mistake on ccp’s part. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985/40 "2019-08-17T20:32:32Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > A large alliance being unable to work around it for the same outcome was what I was disputing. The only effective way at working around this is to contract alliance space into a more favorable manner, and camp that entry point. This will give alliances and their rivals targeted area’s of engagements. They wont have to look for fights, they will know where they are. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-for-ccp-and-players/182985.md?page=3)