# A question to ISD Dorrim Barstorlode **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 6, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949 "2021-03-06T17:56:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/21 "2021-03-06T18:16:48Z")
Can’t say I tried to derail it. If anything I tried to explain why it wasn’t a good idea for what you were wanting. You on the other hand attacked others, or called people stupid, or waste of space etc. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/22 "2021-03-06T18:17:52Z")
Fake news. I only called opinions stupid because people were not thinking about what they were saying. Claiming a new feature for new players was going to ruin eve, give me a break. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/23 "2021-03-06T18:18:38Z")
you called Solecist low IQ!!! ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/24 "2021-03-06T18:19:32Z")
Yeah, because every thread I’ve ever made he derails it. You wouldn’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/25 "2021-03-06T18:20:07Z")
So yes you did call someone stupid… @ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode can you please just lock this… simply for talking about the moderation policy ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/26 "2021-03-06T18:20:40Z")
> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#): > > > [@Xuixien](#): > > > > So people are trash because they disagreed with you, didn’t like your idea, or had different opinions? > > We both know that’s not what was happening. But that is what’s happening. You posted an idea. The majority of responses were on topic and constructive - they just disagreed with you. You began to insult people. You insulted me right away in this thread, and I wasn’t even disagreeing with you in any way. > [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#): > > I only called opinions stupid because people were not thinking about what they were saying. The subtext here is that you’re blaming the targets of your rudeness on them not agreeing with you. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/27 "2021-03-06T18:20:42Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > So yes you did call someone stupid… Yeah, there we go. Again, turn it around on me and ignore the reason why it happened. Keep shilling. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/28 "2021-03-06T18:22:10Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > The subtext here is that you’re blaming the targets of your rudeness on them not agreeing with you. No I’m not, you just take it personally when it’s not. I don’t believe people think a new player feature is going to ruin the game so how can it possibly be a smart thing to say? ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/29 "2021-03-06T18:22:20Z")
Reading through the rest, it seems that OP wants new players to skip the phase where they suck, so instead they can be competitive immediately when they’re actually going in. Basically replace the experience of learning under real conditions with the _illusion_ of real conditions so people _do not need to feel bad about losing._ She’s using irrational, hyperbole arguments, like _“without getting destroyed in 2 seconds because of the high dps output of faction ships and t2 modules.”_ She’s a stereotypical, toxic “think of the children” person. > [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > you called Solecist low IQ!!! Why even try, mate? She’s being completely irrational. There’s no self-reflection you can get her to achieve … … because that _requires_ rational thought. Do you see any rational thoughts coming from her, in either thread? … but thanks anyway. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/30 "2021-03-06T18:23:22Z")
![d8c](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/d/7d1588035f4f539e9c7ad71b2bd5604d9f64966e.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/31 "2021-03-06T18:23:34Z")
> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#): > > > [@Xuixien](#): > > > > The subtext here is that you’re blaming the targets of your rudeness on them not agreeing with you. > > No I’m not, you just take it personally when it’s not. To a T: **A Narcissist’s Prayer** - That didn’t happen. - And if it did, it wasn’t that bad. - And if it was, that’s not a big deal. - And if it is, that’s not my fault. - And if it was, I didn’t mean it. - And if I did… - You deserved it. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/32 "2021-03-06T18:23:50Z")
❤ 💗 💓 ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/33 "2021-03-06T18:23:54Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Reading through the rest, it seems that OP wants new players to skip the phase where they suck Yeah what an idiot I am for suggesting new players shouldn’t be fighting players with 10 years experience, ISK, and skills. Only on this garbage forum. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/34 "2021-03-06T18:24:55Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > To a T: > > **A Narcissist’s Prayer** > > - That didn’t happen. > - And if it did, it wasn’t that bad. > - And if it was, that’s not a big deal. > - And if it is, that’s not my fault. > - And if it was, I didn’t mean it. > - And if I did… > - You deserved it. I don’t lie. You just can’t handle the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/35 "2021-03-06T18:25:07Z")
You have no faith in people and want to protect them from experiences hundreds of thousands before them went through _just fine_, apparently, otherwise there’d be no game. Yeah … in _your own words_ … you’re an idiot. You said it. Too bad it’s typically passive aggressive. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/36 "2021-03-06T18:26:07Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > You have no faith in people and want to protect them from experiences hundreds of thousands before them went through _just fine_, apparently, otherwise there’d be no game. Cringe take. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/37 "2021-03-06T18:27:00Z")
> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#): > > I don’t lie. You just can’t handle the truth. As a clinical therapist, I find you fascinating. Can you tell me about what you’re feeling right now? What sorts of thoughts and associations you’re making? ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/38 "2021-03-06T18:27:22Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > You have no faith in people and want to protect them from experiences hundreds of thousands before them went through _just fine_, apparently, otherwise there’d be no game. Game exists therefore cant be improved. Best argument I’ve ever heard. Not. ---
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/39 "2021-03-06T18:27:24Z")
My fw char is training (Amarr ships so needs tons of fitting skills), what am I going to learn if I’m fighting people who aren’t good at PvP? I WANT to fight “normal” pvpers. I’m going to die anyway and that is fine, expected. This training and preparation not kindergarten. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-question-to-isd-dorrim-barstorlode/298949/40 "2021-03-06T18:27:37Z")
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