# A review of the Nestor: It sucks **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [March 8, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199 "2024-03-08T14:19:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/21 "2024-03-08T16:30:53Z")
Just thought id add, if it is going to be the same price as marauders it should at least have some logi version of bastion, like a mini fax including an animation. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/22 "2024-03-08T16:32:59Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > Attempting to use the stronger Mega Pulse Lasers will easily devour 88% of your entire power grid even at max skills. 4 Mega Beam lasers…250 DPS at 180km ---
**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/23 "2024-03-08T16:33:56Z")
@Mark_Resurrectus would possibly be a good chap to poke. edit: also @Mike_Azariah he likes ship love. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/24 "2024-03-08T16:35:55Z")
> It sucks That’s plain lies. The nestor has no bonus to enery neutralization or nosferatus, has only 7 high. It defy sucks less than an arma. However its armor res bonus and RR bonus makes it better at sucking _in group_. Yet its limited range and speed gives it a hard time chasing after targets. (sorry if someone else already made the joke) ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/25 "2024-03-08T16:35:57Z")
And what are you going to do with your drones, the vast majority of your DPS, that only reach out to 60km? ---
**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/26 "2024-03-08T16:37:44Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > It sucks how would you un suck it? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/27 "2024-03-08T17:30:33Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > And what are you going to do with your drones, the vast majority of your DPS, that only reach out to 60km? Drone link augmentors…which can increase drone range to 121km. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/28 "2024-03-08T17:32:35Z")
HUH? It’s the GO-TO armor logi?? Legit it is the cream and crop of Armor ships PVP/PVE dude… ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/29 "2024-03-08T17:35:19Z")
Still not enough to reach Aurora range, which is 141 km. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/30 "2024-03-08T17:36:43Z")
Only because it has literally no competition. Its really weird how there are only 2 battleships with logi bonuses in the game. The other being the Leshak. If I was a multiboxer I’d just bring two Guardians for a fraction of the price instead. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/31 "2024-03-08T19:04:06Z")
Yah we in the shield community (incursions) have always had the running meme of a shield battleship logi. Probably would break the balance (PVE wise) because shields already have more paper DPS. That’s what we have always believed. 🤷‍♂️ Some more factors to it that have been debated for a super long time in the PVE world. You bet incursioners know how to min/max in PVE. 🔥 ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/32 "2024-03-08T19:08:33Z")
I think the balancing factor is that shields are supposed to be passive regen where armor is active. I believe armor repair is more cap → hp efficient in general. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/33 "2024-03-08T19:29:18Z")
Armor can field less logi than us. That’s why they typically win as they have the wiggle room to slack. Shield pilots always need to be on their game. I have never seen a passive shield doctrine… I doubt one even exists as active tank can do so much more. But who knows I am just PVE. I ran a passive gila and it gets deleted once multispecs go down. I ran a kronos with 0 multispecs in incursions. (shields go bye bye quite fast) Passive tank in my experience can’t compete and has little to 0 effect on shields vs armor. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/34 "2024-03-08T19:37:01Z")
The Nestor might suck, but someone who thinks you put lasers on it is likely not providing a worthwhile opinion. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/35 "2024-03-08T21:25:19Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > Passive tank in my experience can’t compete and has little to 0 effect on shields vs armor. more like, if you need passive tank EVERYONE needs to have passive tank, so a lot of slots dedicated to tank. While when you go remote shield, everyone goes shield buffer (which costs a lot less ) so that the logies can rep anyone before it dies. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/36 "2024-03-08T22:01:32Z")
Not to open a can of worms, but just give it a Covert Ops cloaking capability. Problems solved. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/37 "2024-03-08T22:06:06Z")
Never said you can put lazers on the nestor? Heavy drones is nice tho to get that last bit of dps ---
**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/38 "2024-03-08T23:23:28Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > Not to open a can of worms, but just give it a Covert Ops cloaking capability. Problems solved. I and many others would love that, but I have a memory of a twitch stream years ago and a dev explained why the Nestor didnt have that covops cloak, sadly I cant remember the dev or the stream, or the reason 🙂 what I do remember about it is that It was such an obvious reason (like cars have wheels to move) I couldn’t think of a good argument against it. So despite my useless brain there is a reason its not got it. > [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > Heavy drones is nice tho to get that last bit of dps Indeed, and augmented heavies squeeze that little bit more out eh ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/39 "2024-03-08T23:26:56Z")
The reason is that we can’t have nice things. Probably objections from null-sec (this is usually the reason). ---
**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199/40 "2024-03-08T23:43:06Z")
I don’t remember it being null specific, but speaking of that, that was way before CCP finally gave into the null sec cloaky camper issue, shot exploration in the foot, and added the mobile observatory and the 15min cloak timer. Now that’s in effect if it was reason the Nestor couldn’t have a cov ops cloak then its no longer the case and should be looked at for sure. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-review-of-the-nestor-it-sucks/442199.md?page=3)