# A Route ie; Prefer Safer **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 29, 2020, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403 "2020-04-29T09:59:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/21 "2020-04-30T10:02:48Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Does it say it is safe to use autopilot? It doesn’t have to as the route that had been set reads _Prefer Safer_ eliminating danger that might come from by non players such as NPC’s The pilot is a new pilot and does not have a bad standing with any faction is my backstory in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/22 "2020-04-30T10:06:47Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > It doesn’t have to as the route that had been set reads **Prefer Safer** eliminating danger that might come from by non players such as NPC’s I’ll highlight it for you: _ **Safer** _, does that mean invincible to you? I would like a screenshot of the use of : eliminating danger that might come from by non players such as NPC’s > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > The pilot is a new pilot and does not have a bad standing with any faction is my backstory in this thread. All players have bad standing with the Trigs … they invaded the ■■■■■■■ empire! ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/23 "2020-04-30T10:08:39Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > I would like a screenshot of the use of : eliminating danger that might come from by non players such as NPC’s No, I don’t wish to use whiteout on the monitor! > [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > All players have bad standing with the Trigs … they invaded the ■■■■■■■ empire! Yes, where are the White Faction Navy ships? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/24 "2020-04-30T10:10:01Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Yes, where are the White Faction Navy ships? Busy elsewhere. > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > No, I don’t wish to use whiteout on the monitor! Well, ■■■■ off then with your ■■■■■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/25 "2020-04-30T10:14:40Z")
Need a new Option then, one that selects the path for us that can jump past the Invasions as that does not fit in the Prefer Safer. > [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > I’ll highlight it for you: _ **Safer** _ , does that mean invincible to you? Safe “ **Protected from or not exposed to danger or risk; not likely to be harmed or lost** ” Safer " secure from liability to harm, injury, danger, or risk: a **safe** place. free from hurt, injury, danger, or risk: to arrive **safe** and sound. involving little or no risk of mishap, error, etc.: a **safe** estimate. reference taken from dictionary . com ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/26 "2020-04-30T10:32:06Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > This doesn’t mean take me through Highly Dangerous INVASIONS… Okay! ‘Prefer Safer’ means that instead of the usual dangers of High Security space, you do not also encounter the dangers of Low Security space on your route. It is **safer** to only fly through invasions instead of invasions _and_ gatecamps. Case closed. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/27 "2020-04-30T10:35:05Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Safer " secure from liability to harm, injury, danger, or risk: a **safe** place. free from hurt, injury, danger, or risk: to arrive **safe** and sound. involving little or no risk of mishap, error, etc.: a **safe** estimate. No, that’s the definition of ‘safe’. ‘Safer’ is relative. If something is incredibly dangerous and something else is only a little dangerous, the latter is considered ‘safer’. That does not mean it’s ‘safe’. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/28 "2020-04-30T10:35:11Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Need a new Option then, one that selects the path for us that can jump past the Invasions as that does not fit in the Prefer Safer. No, we do not. Use your ■■■■■■■ brains. Are you one of those special kids that needs to be warned to not put your little dog in a microwave to dry it? > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Safe “ **Protected from or not exposed to danger or risk; not likely to be harmed or lost** ” > > Safer " secure from liability to harm, injury, danger, or risk: a **safe** place. free from hurt, injury, danger, or risk: to arrive **safe** and sound. involving little or no risk of mishap, error, etc.: a **safe** estimate. > reference taken from dictionary . com Jesus wept. … “safer” in the context of the game means safer than “not safe” or “dangerous”. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/29 "2020-04-30T10:54:01Z")
🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/30 "2020-04-30T11:06:23Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > 🍿 /kicks over your bucket of soggy popcorn. [Nicolai Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner) Like I said my backstory for this thread is that I am a new pilot. I didn’t say I was some apprentice chief. Please don’t bring your home cooking recipes to me. > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > No, that’s the definition of ‘safe’. > > ‘Safer’ is relative. If something is incredibly dangerous and something else is only a little dangerous, the latter is considered ‘safer’. That does not mean it’s ‘safe’. So I see the reasoning about having the options and the safer option is of course the safest option of the pick. This is where the discussion can continue. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/31 "2020-04-30T11:08:52Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > So I see the reasoning about having the options and the safer option is of course the safest option of the pick. > > This is where the discussion can continue. I’m glad you can see that, but I think the discussion is finished then. ‘Safer’ does what it’s supposed to do, and if on top of that you want to avoid certain systems on the safer route you can manually add those to your avoidance list. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/32 "2020-04-30T11:09:07Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Like I said my backstory for this thread is that I am a new pilot. I didn’t say I was some apprentice chief. ■■■■ off to the role playing forums. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/33 "2020-04-30T11:22:42Z")
> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > Unfortunately for some reason the Invasion Triangle Symbols are no longer showing in the route path. > > They are for me. Well, maybe I just overlooked it. I don’t remember seeing any Triangles in my route path which surprised me when I entered an Invasion system in the route path. I’ll set a course going through an Invasion area and see if the Triangles show up in the route. Anyway, I agree with the OP, there should be some sort of ‘tick’ box to hopefully make the route path bypass Invasion systems. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/34 "2020-04-30T11:30:16Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Well, maybe I just overlooked it. I don’t remember seeing any Triangles in my route path which surprised me when I entered an Invasion system in the route path. > > I’ll set a course going through an Invasion area and see if the Triangles show up in the route. > > Anyway, I agree with the OP, there should be some sort of ‘tick’ box to hopefully make the route path bypass Invasion systems. The triangles do show up for me when a route takes me through an invasion system. I don’t think we need yet another tick box to avoid those: you can just rightclick the triangle systems on the planned route, add them to your avoidance list and you get a new route (if possible). ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/35 "2020-04-30T16:58:00Z")
OK, I figured out why it didn’t show the triangle. If your destination is one system within the invasion zone, the route won’t show a Triangle but it will show the Trig logo in the destination text box for the route. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/a/3a8280a1db12403aec5531ceeac5f14b1cb35cf6.jpeg) Now if you travel through a system within the Invasion zone to another system within the Invasion zone, then that first system (and any other involved systems) will be displayed as a Triangle in the route and the destination text box for the last system will show the Trig logo. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/4/c4dfcb1df1a12c2f46ca29f118a0c67dae2d1dd1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/36 "2020-04-30T18:18:51Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > my backstory for this thread is that I am a new pilot. That character is from July 2018…what do you consider to be a new player? ---
**Author:** ![Gunas\_Takeva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gunas_takeva/32/245311_2.png) [@Gunas\_Takeva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gunas_Takeva)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/37 "2020-04-30T19:21:13Z")
I’ve never had issues going through invasion systems. Just get a fast align ship and don’t use autopilot. If you do get caught, they’ll more than likely speed up your time to warp when they web you. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/38 "2020-04-30T20:47:39Z")
Oh this was fictional as I tried to place myself inside the pod of a New Pilot to try and visualize some of the _minor_ barely tolerated changes that had come before the final release of this Invasion where roaming fleet wings infest our New Eden. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/39 "2020-05-01T03:39:44Z")
So what does this say about Eve? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-route-ie-prefer-safer/236403/40 "2020-05-01T04:34:12Z")
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