# A Salty Snowflake's Carebear Tale

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 8, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943 "2018-01-08T23:48:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dani\_Murano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dani_murano/32/41357_2.png) [@Dani\_Murano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dani_Murano)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/61 "2018-01-09T09:44:21Z")

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For someone who does not like griefers you are griefing, insuilting and bullying quite well.  
Maybe the wardecs were not because of the newbies in your corp or because of the citadel…

This brings me to the next part that bothers me. I have never played 2 weeks nonstop (whatever this means, time wise). And i don’t know how easy the lerning of the game is now.  
But as far as i remember, it took me quite some time to lern the basics stuff. And took me some time to get enough money for all the skills that are need and the ships.

But if i see it right the cheapest citadel cost nearly 1 billion ISK, doesnt it? Even an EC is 500+ million.  
This is really quite a lot for a group of newbies within a few days. gathering this much money in this short time is impressive for some player who does not know the basics of the game.

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**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/62 "2018-01-09T09:46:51Z")

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Good job, for troll detection.

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**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/63 "2018-01-09T10:41:04Z")

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> [@Krystl\_Snowflake](#):
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> Posting on an alt because I dont need everyone looking at my business like you are trying to.

I know who you are 😋

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**Author:** ![Algarion\_Getz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algarion_getz/32/356396_2.png) [@Algarion\_Getz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algarion_Getz)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/64 "2018-01-09T11:14:08Z")

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> [@Krystl\_Snowflake](#):
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> I didn’t say I’m looking for a “safe space”, you alt-right flunky. Just pointing out that **high sec** is brimming with bored children who delight in their prowess by blowing up noobs all day.

_Corrected._

Most of the griefers and trolls are in high sec because it is full of newbies and unaware casuals who are easy targets.

That is just one of the reasons why high sec is the worst space for a new player/corp.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/65 "2018-01-09T11:20:39Z")

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Ah you remind me of a young me… investigating crimes of the weak with IEEE…

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**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/66 "2018-01-09T11:27:56Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Ah you remind me of a young me…

 ![tumblr_nx3rihKDJg1sew9fzo6_250](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/2/b273ce6b3a3deef2e4ff7786e2b6d7275a79cfc4.gif)

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**Author:** ![Erik\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_doshu/32/369845_2.png) [@Erik\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Doshu)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/67 "2018-01-09T12:14:28Z")

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@Krystl_Snowflake

I was with you there before.

But I realised that, as a golden rule, the moment you log into Eve, you’re basically consenting to taking it up the arse by other players.

Sorry but, it’s the game’s reality. Some find it fun and leanr to live with it as a challenge, while others don’t and leave.

Simple as that.

Like, would you ever go into a BDSM dominatrix dungeon knowingly and cry about being dominated?  
😕

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anne_dieu-le-veut/32/148292_2.png) [@Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anne_Dieu-le-veut)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/68 "2018-01-09T12:33:19Z")

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> [@Linus\_Gorp](#):
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> You can be 99% sure that the OP was some special victim snowflake in local before the wardecs came in as a result of that and he consequentially brought this onto himself.

I was thinking the same thing. For any corp to simultaneously receive multiple war decs and for those people to pursue them even after dropping corp, they really pissed someone or multiple someones off. If she talks in local the same as the forums, I can understand how. However, I’m more inclined to agree this is another troll post from someone that wants to turn this into Star Trek Online.

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/69 "2018-01-09T12:53:10Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/a/1aa7c88f0a96817e58a5386142449f60a2454d7e.gif)

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**Author:** ![Trixie\_Lawless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trixie_lawless/32/257491_2.png) [@Trixie\_Lawless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trixie_Lawless)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/71 "2018-01-09T13:26:58Z")

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> [@Krystl\_Snowflake](#):
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> Prohibited just means it’s against the rules

Its not against the rules.

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**Author:** ![Rhalina\_Sedai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhalina_sedai/32/57980_2.png) [@Rhalina\_Sedai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhalina_Sedai)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/72 "2018-01-09T15:00:35Z")

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Eve online is such a wonderous game, then CCP decided to add humans. Went south after that.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/73 "2018-01-09T15:58:53Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> IEEE

Ahh good times, Zedrik Cayne was a legend.

Did you have anything to do with the Socratic files?

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/74 "2018-01-09T16:02:44Z")

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Always out other characters of such people. we all benefit from that.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/75 "2018-01-09T16:06:28Z")

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> [@Krystl\_Snowflake](#):
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> Am I missing something?

Yes.

> [@](#):
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> Attacking other ships that are not suspect/criminal/war targets is expressly prohibited in high-sec.

You’re very wrong about that.

> 5.3 SOME PLAYER JUST SHOT ME; IS THAT ALLOWED?  
> In EVE Online, any player may attack any other player if they choose to, no  
> matter where they happen to be. This is because EVE Online is essentially  
> a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core.

As per the new player FAQ.

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> That’s why Concord immediately kills you if you do so, and is the entire point of “high sec” …

Concord don’t immediately kill you, they are a timed response; once on grid then yeah they’ll mess you up in no time.

Hisec is there to provide different rules of engagement than the other areas of space, that there is a penalty for unsanctioned aggression does not mean that unsanctioned aggression isn’t allowed.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/76 "2018-01-09T16:08:16Z")

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> [@Trixie\_Lawless](#):
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> Its not against the rules.

There are a few ways to look at it. The only “REAL Rules” are the EULA. In which case you are correct, it is not against the rules.

Ingame, the “fake rules” say you aren’t allowed to engage a neutral player. These rules can be broken, but prohibition does not preclude lawlessness. In this case, it IS against the rules.

By definition, however, “prohibition” can also refer to making something impossible. In which case both of the above are not prohibited actions (where something like smartbombing a gate or using bubbles in high/low IS prohibited as the game simply will not let you do it).

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/77 "2018-01-09T16:27:20Z")

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Only very peripherally at that time unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/78 "2018-01-09T16:29:36Z")

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Shame, that guy was a veritable mountain of salt.

He bitched about it for years in the Eve facebook group, bitched even more when he landed himself a ban 🤣

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/79 "2018-01-09T16:51:49Z")

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This demonstrates where the core problem in EVE lies. There are lots of things that suck in EVE, but none more than the virtual impossibility of finding a good corp to join. CCP’s going to continue dicking around with making the tutorials dumber and dumber without ever fixing what matters. I’m glad OP left a public negative review. EVE doesn’t deserve the new players the marketing team lies to acquire.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/80 "2018-01-09T16:56:08Z")

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> [@mkint](#):
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> This demonstrates where the core problem in EVE lies. There are lots of things that suck in EVE, but none more than the virtual impossibility of finding a good corp to join. CCP’s going to continue dicking around with making the tutorials dumber and dumber without ever fixing what matters. I’m glad OP left a public negative review. EVE doesn’t deserve the new players the marketing team lies to acquire.

Wait wait wait… so…

You are saying that because sucky players suck, CCP shouldn’t get new players to join their game?

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**Author:** ![Trixie\_Lawless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trixie_lawless/32/257491_2.png) [@Trixie\_Lawless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trixie_Lawless)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-salty-snowflakes-carebear-tale/49943/81 "2018-01-09T17:04:51Z")

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Trying to be an online space lawyer still doesn’t change the fact that it is not against the rules. I can shoot anyone in any security space (except for starter systems), and not be breaking any actual rules. Sure CONCORD punishes me for it by exploding my spaceship, but I still didn’t break any actual rules.

If you want to argue that CONCORD is some kind of real authority then I will just argue that CONCORD is only there to provide players with a means of roleplaying the bad guy.

The only rules that count are CCP’s rules, and CCP says its ok.

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