# A significant update to Industry

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [March 26, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303 "2021-03-26T15:00:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 49

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/999 "2021-05-18T16:44:45Z")

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> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> We’ve already covered that im not selling my bpcs.

Yeah, but you’re strill crying a river.

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1000 "2021-05-18T16:59:57Z")

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Call it whatever whatever you want. This is still bad for everyone who isn’t in a similar position as yourself.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1001 "2021-05-18T17:08:52Z")

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> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> This is still bad for everyone who isn’t in a similar position as yourself.

nonsense.

“it’s bad for people for which it’s bad”

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1002 "2021-05-18T19:06:23Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> it’s bad for people for which it’s bad

It’s bad for most people. Which is bad.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1003 "2021-05-18T19:07:49Z")

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> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> It’s bad for most people.

You are not most people.

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1004 "2021-05-18T19:33:30Z")

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Neither are you.

In fact I’d venture to guess that most people don’t have 9b to drop on blueprints. I know that most people don’t have low/null refineries. Most people just buy the hulls, and its worse for them too. Who is this good for? You, it’s good for you and those like you.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1005 "2021-05-18T19:54:02Z")

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> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> Neither are you.

Indeed, that’s why I dont pretend to talk in the name of “most people”.  
While you do.

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1006 "2021-05-18T19:58:06Z")

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Dude, it’s a ■■■■■■■ fact. If you aren’t setup for advanced industry you got shafted. Period. There are no ifs ands or buts. I dont have to speak for others. It’s blatantly, painfully, obvious unless you’re being dishonest with yourself. Those in a position to profit from this are happy, and just fùck everyone else. Thats all there is to it.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1007 "2021-05-18T20:37:40Z")

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> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> Dude, it’s a ■■■■■■■ fact.

It’s not.

It’s just your stupid interpretation. Your need to whine at the slightest modification that is not in your favor.

> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> I dont have to speak for others

And still you pretend to !

> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> It’s blatantly, painfully, obvious unless you’re being dishonest with yourself.

It’s wrong unless your being dishonnest with yourself.  
You even told it was not important before, so WTF are you even complaining about ? That something not worth became not worth at the moment ?  
That’s just jerking for the taste of your own milk. That’s all there is.

> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> Those in a position to profit from this are happy, and just fùck everyone else.

Everybody is in a position to profit from it. Any important change is followed by chaos, then stability. The only people in a position to profit from chaos are … well, anybody.

But be sure of something : if this was not about this change, I would find another way to ■■■■ you up. And the reason is, you are asking for it by being a whinebaby, instead of trying to play the game.

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1008 "2021-05-18T21:06:03Z")

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Functionality has been universally removed. That is bad. Period.

> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> ■■■■ you up

I’ve seen the way you fit ships (lol explo rail enyo), you aren’t fùcking anybody up.

> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> play the game

I am. Thats why I even care.

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**Author:** ![taylor04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taylor04/32/294295_2.png) [@taylor04](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/taylor04)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1009 "2021-05-18T23:22:08Z")

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Fixed why there are still man player this game

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1010 "2021-05-20T21:22:01Z")

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What are you trying to say?

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1011 "2021-05-25T21:08:12Z")

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We are not distracted by the creation of a gate to stain that we cant even disrupt.

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**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1012 "2021-05-31T08:08:37Z")

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> [@Adunh\_Slavy](#):
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> A few in this thread may benefit from reading " I, Pencil", by Leonard E. Read.

very very late reply here but… I did look into it after reading the part of the thread where you and others talk about it…

" The lesson I have to teach is this: _Leave all creative energies uninhibited._ Merely organize society to act in harmony with this lesson. Let society’s legal apparatus remove all obstacles the best it can. Permit these creative know-hows freely to flow. Have faith that free men and women will respond to the Invisible Hand. This faith will be confirmed."

I just gotta say… Boy, that sure sounds like Andrew Ryan from Bioshock.

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**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1013 "2021-05-31T09:39:49Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> The change sucks, but for those of us not into grinding, its been a godsend.

There are EVE players who don’t love grinding? huh… TIL. 😉

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**Author:** ![ntopios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ntopios/32/253890_2.png) [@ntopios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ntopios)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1014 "2021-06-01T11:37:27Z")

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People since we got the csm elections , i just want to remind everyone to show the appreciation for the industry patch and help reelect Kenneth Feld .The person that sacrificed his personal time, to help the devs to deliver a patch that everybody in the community wanted .A patch that made industry easier for the new players to engage , and gave more opportunities to the industrial players that doesn’t have an army of alts or are members of a big nullsec alliance .So don’t forget to log in and vote .Kenneths full interview for the csm  
https://player.twitch.tv/?video=v1039889702&parent=forums.eveonline.com&autoplay=false

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**Author:** ![James\_Kitchell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_kitchell/32/302051_2.png) [@James\_Kitchell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Kitchell)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1015 "2021-06-05T20:25:04Z")

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These industry changes have ruined my ability to make isk. I’m sure someone thought they would be a good idea, but it’s ABUNDANTLY CLEAR they are not.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1016 "2021-06-06T07:56:05Z")

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Thank you @CCP_Rattati for screwing up industry and markets. Thanks you pile Amarr cannot profit at all from this crappy BS event. Many thanks.

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**Author:** ![ntopios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ntopios/32/253890_2.png) [@ntopios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ntopios)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1017 "2021-06-06T15:08:41Z")

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How the patch destroyed industry and the market?Look ,the player base wanted a deep change in the industry, so that the eco system can come to a healthy state.Market is fine , everything is in stock .market prices are at last in the range they should have been in the first place.You should be very happy that Keneth feld was in csm 15 ,and helped ccp devs to deliver this very calculated patch , that took the industry to the next lvl.Watch the csm interview by Keneth i linked above and get your facts straight .

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**Author:** ![ntopios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ntopios/32/253890_2.png) [@ntopios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ntopios)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1018 "2021-06-06T15:23:54Z")

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listen u are kinda the 1 dude that will always be unsatisfied what ever is done .99% percent of the player base support the patch.Keneth feld a csm member publicly said he worked for 6 months with the devs for this patch(csm =player base voted for him). You are just making fool of your self whining while everything got better .Go Keneth get in csm 16 so you can finish your work!!!

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