# A significant update to Industry **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [March 26, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303 "2021-03-26T15:00:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![Induce\_Deadline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/induce_deadline/32/418955_2.png) [@Induce\_Deadline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Induce_Deadline)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1060 "2021-07-09T22:38:05Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > Turning a whole tree of ships into collectors items, not to be undocked unless you’re in a fleet of 200+ (and stay in tether/docking range) with a 2,000 man support fleet, isn’t how you address the issues with Super proliferation. Not to mention almost permanently cementing them as Vet only ships as any new player now has to grind 10x as hard as those of us who got ours before the indy changes. It’s like Blizz nerfing raid epic droprates after a bunch of players got fully geared, it’s just shitting on the newbro. ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1061 "2021-07-15T15:49:44Z")
> [@Induce\_Deadline](#): > > just shitting on the newbro. But but but… Ccp said this is good for newbros bc you can choose which part of production you want to do as opposed to the absolutely insane goal of building faction subs and t1 bs completely on your own like you’ve been able to do since launch. It truly is amazing that people expect to be able to perform basic ass tasks like they always could. /s Being real, at first glance I didn’t hate the cap part of the change. They should take a little more to build than they used to imo. Upon further reflection even that is quite a bit heavy handed. I own one cap, it has nearly quadrupled in value. Everything about this was ass from the beginning and its still ass now. Thanks @CCP_Rattati. ---
**Author:** ![ntopios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ntopios/32/253890_2.png) [@ntopios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ntopios)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1062 "2021-07-15T18:29:21Z")
> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#): > > Thanks @CCP_Rattati. god reduce years from us all and give it to @CCP_Rattati ---
**Author:** ![Theodyval\_Kinging1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theodyval_kinging1/32/415265_2.png) [@Theodyval\_Kinging1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theodyval_Kinging1)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1063 "2021-07-15T21:22:17Z")
> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#): > > Ccp said this is good for newbros bc you can choose which part of production you want to do as opposed to the absolutely insane goal of building faction subs and t1 bs completely on your own like you’ve been able to do since launch. It truly is amazing that people expect to be able to perform basic ass tasks like they always could “It is more fun to only build part of a spaceship than to build all of it.” --CCP Rattati ---
**Author:** ![SportBilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sportbilly/32/453293_2.png) [@SportBilly](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SportBilly)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1064 "2021-07-17T06:10:03Z")
This industry patch is the most damaging to the game i have seen. Worse than blackout, worse than the Walking in Stations failed rollout. In one patch CCP have crushed so many players playstyle and income in ONE HIT. Cumulative with the mining nerfs, and hamstrung by the WCS changes players are LEAVING. Many wont ever be back… Well the figures speak for themselves…so sad to see a great game wrecked. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/d/8/6d81f60ee8121e0ec650232c88321b2d20433cd8.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1065 "2021-08-11T14:53:09Z")
Still shìt ---
**Author:** ![Katherine\_Blanchett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katherine_blanchett/32/283994_2.png) [@Katherine\_Blanchett](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katherine_Blanchett)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1066 "2021-08-19T04:06:16Z")
This is arguably the absolute shittest thing that has ever happened to eve. much more damaging to players than the blackout. @CCP_Rattati ---
**Author:** ![May\_Q\_Cry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/may_q_cry/32/370362_2.png) [@May\_Q\_Cry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/May_Q_Cry)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1067 "2021-08-19T14:29:03Z")
@CCP_Rattati is the worst thing to ever happen to EVE… they should let him go fail at another First Person Shooter game instead of ruining EVE. ---
**Author:** ![ntopios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ntopios/32/253890_2.png) [@ntopios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ntopios)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1068 "2021-08-19T21:05:40Z")
just checked the market and ships in my nul sec region gj guys now i can t fly the ships i want and pew pew .keep up the good work .bought from jita the extra materials to build a bhaalgorn it cost me 1.2 bill great job ■■■■ u keneth feld ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1069 "2021-09-13T04:22:44Z")
Well, here we are again and this garbage is still just as shìt as the day it happened. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1070 "2021-09-13T08:01:27Z")
It was summer my dude. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/1/3/7136806e503608bcd80536e90e3696199b6bb2e4.png) Already rebounding. > [@Ranar\_Linyne](#): > > Well, here we are again and this garbage is still just as shìt as the day it happened. I think it’s great. Just fly the less expensive ships and make up for the lower power by flying better. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1071 "2021-09-13T08:49:35Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > Just fly the less expensive ships You know whats amazing? When you try to tell people this and their retort is that 90% of the ship tree is “useless” or “irrelevent” or “garbage”. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1072 "2021-09-13T09:42:11Z")
Sure is. 20,000 average over 2 weeks is far better now than it was 3 months ago when it was 21,000 over the same period. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1073 "2021-09-13T09:55:01Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > 20,000 average over 2 weeks is far better now than it was 3 months ago when it was 21,000 over the same period. You should probably get a magnifying glass before you strain your eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1074 "2021-09-13T11:20:40Z")
![Screenshot from 2021-09-13 20-49-35](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/7/1/b71e66579b83d0e17f0698599605ddf09262169a.png) My eyesight is just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1075 "2021-09-13T14:50:09Z")
A statistically flat line. Congrats! ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1076 "2021-09-13T18:33:03Z")
Ah yes, a flatline… I hear thats a sign of great health. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1077 "2021-09-14T00:06:46Z")
Oh, are we doing the “no matter what, spin it in a negative way” schtick? A statistically flat line is also _stable_. While it’s a shame EVE isn’t growing, the fact that it has a stable playerbase - after 20 years - should not be overlooked. To do so wouldn’t just be dishonest, it would be _anti_truth. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1078 "2021-09-14T03:40:05Z")
So you believe having 14k less average daily logins than 5 years ago is ok? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1079 "2021-09-14T03:57:17Z")
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