# A significant update to Industry

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [March 26, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303 "2021-03-26T15:00:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 55

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1120 "2021-09-21T12:09:35Z")

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Ugh vile.

Alts yes, PI and Reactions no

The fact people pay to literally receive nothing.

They could just buy plex instead

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**Author:** ![Serafim\_Ognev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serafim_ognev/32/292647_2.png) [@Serafim\_Ognev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serafim_Ognev)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1121 "2021-09-22T15:21:09Z")

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Ok guys )

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1122 "2021-09-23T06:02:21Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> people pay to literally receive nothing.

I mean, they pay to get back to where they already were in a way.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1123 "2021-09-23T06:54:17Z")

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I guess, but in stead of paying to have an alt to do nothing for a while, then have another alt pick up the stuff and sell at Jita, just buy plex instead?

Maybe thats the plan, but it doesnt really make CCP any more or less money

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1124 "2021-10-14T18:40:15Z")

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Another three weeks have passed and this is still bullshìt. Just a friendly reminder.

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1125 "2021-10-23T18:57:24Z")

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That moment when you realize even Evan McLean isn’t feeding caps anymore.

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1126 "2021-11-12T22:16:50Z")

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Y’all seeing that they had every opportunity to fix this nonsense and chose to fail? They are making it even more complex and tedious to mine and otherwise extract materials needed for industry. Then they’re touting it as if it’s a good thing.

This is colloquially known as pissing on your leg and telling you its raining. @CCP_Rattati

CCPlease, just quit “fixing” things that aren’t broken. There are plenty of actually broken things you could be fixing. I’m looking at you proteus, and literally every revenue source that isn’t trig related.

And why the hell is this still in slow mode??

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**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1127 "2021-11-13T20:06:21Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/5/d/c5d4bf8d8db55c8eb64aa935f644a9fe1355b4c3.png)

It’s 33k vs 30k now. And this is after EVE debuted on Epic in September (+9k new accounts on 1st day).  
2016 & 2017 were the best years. Everything after Trig ■■■■■■■■ is a downfall. See the long term trend. 2020 is pandemic exception as all games gained attention (slightly above trend).

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1128 "2021-11-13T20:07:33Z")

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kdude.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1129 "2021-11-14T01:50:16Z")

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I have provided a thorough analysis on my blog:

[https://www.james315.space/2021/11/13/miner-madness/](https://www.james315.space/2021/11/13/miner-madness/)

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1130 "2021-11-14T11:08:11Z")

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> [@Vixen\_Vix](#):
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> 2016 & 2017 were the best years.

Not according to that graph

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**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1131 "2021-11-14T12:07:22Z")

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Details. Don’t be so picky. You can see that I analyze last 5 years, can’t you? Anyway we talk about last indy patch. Not 2003, 2010 nor 2012 which is a history. In the last 18 years you can see 5 trends but this is irrelevant to current situation.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1132 "2021-11-14T12:12:12Z")

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I dont disagree the last industry patch was terrible, but I also dont think

1. its responsible for the drop in of itself

2. that thinskinned unprepared krabs leaving the game is bad

The mining update will hopefully burn a few more of them out

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1133 "2021-11-15T01:28:23Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> the last industry patch was terrible

It really is.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> its responsible for the drop in of itself

No, its definitely not the only factor at play here.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> that thinskinned unprepared krabs leaving the game is bad

But, but… muh targets…

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1134 "2021-11-15T07:43:44Z")

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> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> But, but… muh targets…

Tbh the only people calling that are krabs putting words in others mouths

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**Author:** ![Pecan24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pecan24/32/296731_2.png) [@Pecan24](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pecan24)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1135 "2021-11-15T07:43:47Z")

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If the mineral content is doubled again, the collection speed is doubled. I believe it will reverse people’s negative evaluation of the game and constantly suppress people’s happiness. This is not what a game should do.

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1136 "2021-11-15T07:49:19Z")

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You’re not wrong there either. I’m not gonna mine the rocks though, so i kinda do want other people to do it and excel at it so my ■■■■ is cheap again.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1137 "2021-11-15T07:59:15Z")

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And plenty will, just not the morons who think afk rorq krabbing is elite mining

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**Author:** ![Benteen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/benteen/32/255523_2.png) [@Benteen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Benteen)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1138 "2021-11-15T09:45:07Z")

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It’s not ONLY Rorq and Orca miners that are leaving… lower end miners are also leaving due to the changes the game had gone through for the last couple of years.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-significant-update-to-industry/302303/1139 "2021-11-15T09:48:31Z")

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They are leaving _now_, when its just been announced their yields will be higher and not before?

Doubt

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