# A Small CSM Updoot, to let you know we are still here (Aug 12, 2020)

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**Created:** [August 12, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-small-csm-updoot-to-let-you-know-we-are-still-here-aug-12-2020/260066 "2020-08-12T21:39:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tau\_Hopper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tau_hopper/32/359920_2.png) [@Tau\_Hopper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tau_Hopper)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-small-csm-updoot-to-let-you-know-we-are-still-here-aug-12-2020/260066/62 "2020-08-21T16:24:00Z")

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No, that isn’t what I was trying to express.

Of course the Character Sheet doesn’t list all the mechanics that use the standings, and whether these take the _modified_ or _unmodified_ values (you’d have to look up e.g. the [applicable references](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203218962-Broker-Fee-and-Sales-Tax)). But each of the entries for the respective factions, corps, or agents display a value which accounts for the social skills - which you can see detailed when hovering over them.

The EDENCOM and Triglavian Collective entries are however being used in a way similar to any of the others as far as the NPC aggression is concerned, within the ranges defined by CCP. Yet it is the entries themselves that omit the social skill modifiers already, bypassing them entirely.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-small-csm-updoot-to-let-you-know-we-are-still-here-aug-12-2020/260066/63 "2020-11-19T16:24:12Z")

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