# A Solution to the Generational Slavery Question **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2017, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301 "2017-09-10T09:13:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sinjin\_Mokk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sinjin_mokk/32/11102_2.png) [@Sinjin\_Mokk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sinjin_Mokk)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/42 "2017-09-11T18:19:14Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > absynthe makes the fond heart wander . . . or something like that “Absynthe makes the tart grow fonder.” ---
**Author:** ![Sinjin\_Mokk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sinjin_mokk/32/11102_2.png) [@Sinjin\_Mokk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sinjin_Mokk)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/43 "2017-09-11T18:23:13Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > Remind me, when did the Empire become a member state of the Gallente Federation, that doing something popular mattered more than doing what is Right ? When they signed the Yulai Accords. ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Cultist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_cultist/32/388342_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Cultist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Cultist)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/44 "2017-09-11T18:26:47Z")
> [@Anataine\_Deva](#): > > > [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > > > Slavery is Retained as a Form of Corrective Justice for Offenders against God and Society. > > Of which of the many gods you’re talking about? God the Creator, the Red God, the Crimson Saviour, the Great Architect of the Universe, the All-Seeing Eye, The Universal Cornerstone, the Consuming Fire. God has Many Titles, and may Appear in many Forms to Prophets. > [@Kogilla](#): > > I would like to know Synthia I’s opinions regarding the use of transcranial microcontrollers and vitoxin. TransCranial MicroControllers, as a Therapeutic Device in the Treatment of certain Brain Conditions, are a Useful and Valuable Device. The Use of TCMCs as a Method of Control over slave Labourers, is Questionable at Best. Contrast: The Takmahl Empire used the Takmahl Biodroid Controller to control their Genetically-engineered Servitors. The Takmahl Empire no longer Exists. They had been Judged and found Wanting. Was that their Sole Error ? It is not Known. Though, I do not Believe that Misuse of such Technology would have Caused God to look Favourably upon Them. Vitoxin and Vitoc, are a Questionable Method of Control. I am Unaware of the Scripture that States that such a Method is Acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Sinjin\_Mokk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sinjin_mokk/32/11102_2.png) [@Sinjin\_Mokk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sinjin_Mokk)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/45 "2017-09-11T18:35:09Z")
> [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > The Use of TCMCs as a Method of Control over slave Labourers, is Questionable at Best. > > Contrast: The Takmahl Empire used the Takmahl Biodroid Controller to control their Genetically-engineered Servitors. The Takmahl Empire no longer Exists. They had been Judged and found Wanting. By that logic, God certainly favors Sansha’s Nation for all that He has allowed them to run roughshod over the Empire. ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Cultist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_cultist/32/388342_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Cultist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Cultist)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/46 "2017-09-11T18:38:27Z")
> [@Sinjin\_Mokk](#): > > > [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > > > The Use of TCMCs as a Method of Control over slave Labourers, is Questionable at Best. > > > > Contrast: The Takmahl Empire used the Takmahl Biodroid Controller to control their Genetically-engineered Servitors. The Takmahl Empire no longer Exists. They had been Judged and found Wanting. > > By that logic, God certainly favors Sansha’s Nation for all that He has allowed them to run roughshod over the Empire. Sir. I do Not Believe that your Argument is Correct. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/47 "2017-09-12T09:41:10Z")
As has been pointed out before, there’s no specific mutual defense pact between Amarr and Caldari. Are you offering your services to the Amarrians as a mercenary to aid in their defense? ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/48 "2017-09-12T09:42:40Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Matari feel to put an unreasonable demand for criminal allowance Hey Arrendis, you’re a criminal for not wanting to be a slave according to Diana. ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/49 "2017-09-12T09:45:12Z")
> [@Halcyon\_Ember](#): > > Hey Arrendis, you’re a criminal for not wanting to be a slave according to Diana. I thought you were a criminal for just not being Diana… ---
**Author:** ![Anataine\_Deva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anataine_deva/32/373865_2.png) [@Anataine\_Deva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anataine_Deva)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/50 "2017-09-12T11:58:25Z")
> [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > God the Creator, the Red God, the Crimson Saviour, the Great Architect of the Universe, the All-Seeing Eye, The Universal Cornerstone, the Consuming Fire. God has Many Titles, and may Appear in many Forms to Prophets. Ah, okay. I heard of a god named Beli Mawr, not sure if that’s your one. Anyway, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/51 "2017-09-12T12:18:02Z")
Now now, let’s give her a fair chance to respond to my position as it’s been stated. I know Diana’s a bit of a zealot, but she _is_ capable of being reasoned with. You just have to avoid her trigger words… which are basically anything in any Gallente political treatise beyond ‘is’, ‘a’, and ‘the’. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/52 "2017-09-12T12:21:55Z")
If she responds to you in a fashion that doesn’t use any of the words “goon”, “uneducated”, “savage”, “stupid” or synonyms which imply the same, you can name your forfeit. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/53 "2017-09-12T12:25:36Z")
She can use the word “goon”. No shame in calling me what I am. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/54 "2017-09-12T12:27:34Z")
It’s a fair point, but I was thinking more of the tone when she uses that one. I believe her inflection on the word is very similar to the way she says Gallente. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/55 "2017-09-12T12:34:49Z")
Stop. Poking. It. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/56 "2017-09-12T17:52:18Z")
> [@Halcyon\_Ember](#): > > Hey Arrendis, you’re a criminal for not wanting to be a slave according to Diana. Except I’ve never said this thing, troll. Stop putting your dumb ideas into my mouth. If you are so base that can’t even comprehend why you said such idiotically inaccurate claim, I’ll show you: Slaves are ones, who are punished for a criminal offense - thus, they are criminals. Those, who weren’t enslaved and don’t want to be a slave are NOT criminal for that mere fact. They would be criminals only if they WERE admitted to slavery, OR has committed a crime that guarantees slavery, but they weren’t caught and enslaved yet. ---
**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/504852_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/57 "2017-09-12T17:54:25Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Now now, let’s give her a fair chance to respond to my position as it’s been stated. I know Diana’s a bit of a zealot, but she is capable of being reasoned with. You’re kidding, right? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/58 "2017-09-12T18:00:49Z")
> [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](#): > > I thought you were a criminal for just not being Diana… I will appreciate if you won’t pay attention to such idiotic claims like that, and won’t answer to this troll anymore. It starts getting annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/59 "2017-09-12T18:11:01Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Those, who weren’t enslaved and don’t want to be a slave are NOT criminal for that mere fact. They would be criminals only if they WERE admitted to slavery, OR has committed a crime that guarantees slavery, but they weren’t caught and enslaved yet. I’ve committed a crime that guarantees slavery, Diana: I don’t believe in the Amarr god. If I wasn’t a capsuleer, I’d be fair game. But it’s interesting that you’ve no response to my post. It’s almost like you can’t support your position. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/60 "2017-09-12T18:15:17Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > I’ve committed a crime that guarantees slavery, Diana: I don’t believe in the Amarr god. If I wasn’t a capsuleer, I’d be fair game. > > But it’s interesting that you’ve no response to my post. It’s almost like you can’t support your position. Aren’t you a nullsec outlaw instead of Empire Citizen? But in any way, stupidity of her comment lies in a claim that lack of desire of becoming a slave makes one a criminal. While in fact you are a criminal for committing a crime, while the slavery is just one of punishments you may get. What that troll said is same as making claims “You are a criminal for not wanting to go to jail”, “You are a criminal for not wanting to be executed”, “You are a criminal for not wanting to be whipped”, and so on. Really, enough of this crap. Better try to discuss the question at hand. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301/61 "2017-09-12T18:16:50Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > I know Diana’s a bit of a zealot And enough of this crap too. Obviously I am not a zealot, despite many trolls try to claim that sort of slander about me. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-solution-to-the-generational-slavery-question/23301.md?page=4)