# A universal "NEUTRAL" password when visiting ANY system and don't get killed?

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**Category:** Warfare & Tactics\
**Created:** [October 21, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546 "2025-10-21T17:28:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/22 "2025-11-17T01:18:39Z")

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Alpha accounts have been abused since their inception, though CCP finally removed a few of the abuses they were being used for. Namely ganking and the AIR SP thing.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/23 "2025-11-17T01:20:45Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> Alpha accounts have been abused since their inception

I’ll give you that. My alpha accts are named Alpha Abuse 1, 2 and 3! 🤣

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/24 "2025-11-17T02:18:13Z")

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> [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](#):
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> 5mil SP

Even without paying, alphas can get up to 20 mil

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**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/25 "2025-11-17T11:03:06Z")

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Which is utterly stupid of CCP to do.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/26 "2025-11-17T11:05:18Z")

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well they have to use skill injectors only, which some will pay RL for daily injectors, or just pay the isk for them, or make enough isk to buy the large, but in the end its still better overall to buy the dailys as they’ll in the long run get more SP than with the large since after 5 mil a large only gets you 400k

10 daily injectors = 500k = 600m  
1 large injector = 400k = 770m

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**Author:** ![Angel\_Van\_Death](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angel_van_death/32/477684_2.png) [@Angel\_Van\_Death](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angel_Van_Death)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/27 "2025-11-18T15:11:01Z")

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OP

Can you please Biomass your toon and uninstall the game and never come back

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/28 "2025-11-27T19:43:48Z")

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I’m not responsible for the hell yo brain is thinkin…  
Nor reduce the resonance hiss this thread has produced.  
Please contact ground to release some.

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**Author:** ![Yengwayo\_Zembutoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yengwayo_zembutoo/32/456345_2.png) [@Yengwayo\_Zembutoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yengwayo_Zembutoo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/29 "2025-11-27T23:15:28Z")

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Trust no one, that is the password.

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**Author:** ![Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inxentas_ultramar/32/385922_2.png) [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inxentas_Ultramar)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/30 "2025-11-28T09:42:55Z")

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This already exists, but it’s called **co-operation**. So what you do, is you talk to people that frequent a system. I used to sit in the same one for hours doing whatever-not-your-business. If you just pass by or stealth along, I’m happy enough to let you pass. If you want to rat, then that’s fine too, but we do need to make a little deal. I must add I am unaware of current data such as drop rates, but here’s an example for your convenience.

The reason we didn’t want neutrals to rat our haunt was because of certain rare drops we’d like to trade in for ourselves. Now, some of these things are dropped by enemies a new player is unlikely to kill anyway. If that new player agrees to inform us of certain spawns we’d even be willing to pay them a finders fee (as it saves us a lot of time).

But you do not farm my haunt without acknowledging me. Our interactions need not be hostile, but interact we most certainly will.

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**Author:** ![Yengwayo\_Zembutoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yengwayo_zembutoo/32/456345_2.png) [@Yengwayo\_Zembutoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yengwayo_Zembutoo)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/31 "2025-11-29T00:18:09Z")

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> [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](#):
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> haunt

👻 boo love it.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/32 "2025-11-29T02:01:51Z")

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It all comes down to effort. Meh…

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/33 "2025-11-30T11:06:32Z")

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Alpha accounts should not have forum access.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/34 "2025-12-01T01:26:27Z")

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Aw, I would not go that far. Their 🍷 makes up for their lack of effort! 🤣

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/35 "2025-12-11T19:41:21Z")

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YEah, fine, but let say I give you an Insurance letter for 1 TRILLION isks if you or any other of your corp kills me whilst I’m in your WH space (assuming you have sovereignity over that WH)…  
I have an OPEN fleet so anyone of your members can come join any activity and vice-versa, I could come and partecipate in any of yours…

Let say I work in DUAL, or we are THREE Fleet guys, so we have a Logi, a BC, and a BS…  
We go after rats or other stuff and you want to get in…

If you have signed the “insurance” letter, I will know that you are serious about not PVP-ing me  
. You could use an ALT to do the work… but if you are ALSO in the same FLEET as us, and someone pops up in the WH with BAD intentions… like… your corp is at WAR with someone and a TITAN shows up… Now you need to defend your POS or whatever…

But the bad guys just target US and kills us…  
WHO pays???

Being part of Fleets, there is sometime a clear MOTD with an insurance policy, where everyone has to sign before logging in, and pay 15Mil collateral in advance…

I think a similar thing could work in a broader way amongst all of EvE community capsuleers, but logically Every corp will have their own KIND of MOTD and Insurance policies. So content may vary in greater depth than a barrel of Old Oak with 100 years of Aged Red Wine in it…

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/36 "2025-12-12T03:31:16Z")

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Your in their space and could be carrying good loot; it literally doesnt matter if your neutral, if anything it makes you a target.

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**Author:** ![Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inxentas_ultramar/32/385922_2.png) [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inxentas_Ultramar)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/37 "2025-12-12T15:10:36Z")

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You make things WAY to complicated with your insurance idea.

> But the bad guys just target US and kills us… WHO pays???

You do. You decided to be in the same system as our POS. That means you run the risk of running into our enemies’ fleets. What, you expect me to reimburse you for a loss just because it happened on my doorstep? Ok, let me make something very clear.

- I never joined fleets to PVE.
- The fact I did not own a Titan, doesn’t make me the Good Guy.
- Whomever brings a Titan into lowsec to kill a POS kind of deserves the RF cycle.
- I only Fleeted up to PVP. I already expected to lose my ship. You NOT expecting that is why you’re doing all these mental gymnastics.

I’m a pirate and a PVPer, but not a horrible person. I have never needed any insurance, as I flew with other PVPers that turned out to NOT be horrible awoxers and such. It turns out that paranoia is for the rich, as the poor can easily find a friend to go and kill their first miner or FW farmer. Those activities breed friendships. Come on comms, and kill with me. You’ll learn the best ships in the game are friendships, especially those of the homicidal maniac-variety.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/38 "2025-12-19T02:04:04Z")

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> [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](#):
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> especially those of the homicidal maniac-variety.

You give me hope for the game! 😎

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/39 "2026-01-07T19:16:22Z")

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Ah, the good times where you betray your corp-mate and sell your soul to the guy next door, then Alt into the guy next Door and repeat the cycle untill both corps implodes and you now have a couple or more enemies at the same time… what a wonderful world…

That is why I like to test my friends with cash on the table…  
it could turn out to be some really friendly co-op…  
nobody is gonna blame your Alt with a Titan if he suddenly shows up and plug my  
irate outta screen and then start chanting in Welsh in the chat without me  
signing a peace agreement with the Dark side of myself…

Internet is no barrier for the Dark side…  
I’ll hear your soul chanting 10.000 miles away…

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**Author:** ![Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inxentas_ultramar/32/385922_2.png) [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inxentas_Ultramar)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/40 "2026-01-09T09:38:09Z")

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I’d classify that as a pseudo-awox. Not our playstyle. We had to be conscious about ISK. And who we flew with. I posted a story about POS passwords before but that was an uh… “internal” affair.

Internal as in… internal to that badly defined “group” of lowsec entities with a NAP in the surrounding systems. I believe the guy ran a decent moon in our old haunt we didn’t mind letting go of. He was just an enormous \*\*\*\* to people on comms so one day we decided we had enough.

Got my one and only BlackOps ship from that raid. Still have that old Panther somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Holden\_Wise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/holden_wise/32/487970_2.png) [@Holden\_Wise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Holden_Wise)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-universal-neutral-password-when-visiting-any-system-and-dont-get-killed/499546/41 "2026-01-14T23:23:43Z")

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There is no way for you to prove your benign intentions and no way for anyone else to prove their intentions with respect to you. It’s just like real life.

In order to do what you want you just need to become extremely skillful at stealthful movement in and between systems and how to create and use safe locations. It can be done.

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