# A Way to Keep Players Involved **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 1, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419 "2024-03-01T19:38:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/101 "2024-03-17T02:17:50Z")
I wondered what happened to Gix. His roflcopter comments were always good for a chuckle. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/102 "2024-03-17T02:29:22Z")
Very sadly, like many other worthy opponents, CCP drove them out or they just gave up like me and went on to more challenging games. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/103 "2024-03-17T08:59:14Z")
Not to piss on your parade of Lucas Kell hate posting, but he has given up on the forums while the ISD operate on a two tiered policing system, effectively his words NOT MINE. So there is zero chance that any of these people posting are his alts. Sorry to disappoint you on this! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/104 "2024-03-17T09:13:13Z")
Please do not discuss moderation, or rumor-monger. ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/105 "2024-03-17T11:20:15Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > That’s hate speech. And shouldn’t be tolerated by CCP. Or anyone else for that matter. The truth is never hate speech… Btw the accuse ‘hate speech’ is nothing but an easy excuse for people who cannot stand clearly spoken words… There is no ‘hate speech’,it simply does not exist…i do not hate anything or anybody,i’m just not willing to hold back so a pretty snowflake does not melt in the normal warm sunlight… If you cannot stand a hard spoken insult,leave,that’s your only exit,false accuses are not… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/106 "2024-03-17T11:26:57Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Don’t be silly. The entire game is a pyramid whose apex is pew pew. The ONLY reason mining, trading, PI, etc exist is to service that pew pew and provide materials. Those activities are not an end in themselves…they are all subservient to pew pew. Well that’s wrong…the game mainly focusses on cooperation and not on pvp…pvp is a part of it right,but -as i said- a 1/3 minority…I’m sorry but that is -beside what the pvp faction alwyas yells out so loud- the simple truth… The game would survive without pvp…it would be a slightly other game,but it would prosper… ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/107 "2024-03-17T11:31:59Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > The truth is never hate speech… It isn’t “the truth” just because you say so. Wanting “to get rid of” players (which clearly means you advocate for some kind of “action being taken” against them) because they have an opposing opinion while always having respected the rules of the game is de-facto hurtful for the game as a product and the community environment as it promotes censorship of other peoples points of view. And the strong language you use against those who do not share your views speaks lenghts already about of which mindset you are. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/108 "2024-03-17T11:35:14Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > The game would survive without pvp Don’t be silly. Without pew pew and combat there’d be no _reason_ for anyone to make the vast majority of ships as nobody would be buying them. What would be the _point_ of mining for ore, if nobody was going to turn it into a ship ? What would be the point of making modules, ammo, etc, etc…if nobody was ever going to _use_ it ? Your alleged ‘minority’ is what keeps the entire game going. We combat people are the ones who create the destruction that necessitates new ships being built and miners going out to mine the materials. We keep the entire economy going. Again and again you people fail to grasp that Eve _needs_ destruction and is fundamentally based upon it for the economy to work at all. ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/109 "2024-03-17T11:37:54Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > It isn’t “the truth” just because you say so. Wanting “to get rid of” players (which clearly means you advocate for some kind of “action being taken” against them) because they have an opposing opinion while always having respected the rules of the game is de-facto hurtful for the game as a product and the community environment as it promotes censorship of other peoples points of view. And the strong language you use against those who do not share your views speaks lenghts already about of which mindset you are. This overdramatizing is exactly the problem…and your argumantative problem… Because exact the ‘censorship’ you are remarking is done by you if you simply mark something as ‘hate speech’ and delete it or just devalue it…It’s also opinion surpression and as bad as you accuse ‘hate speech’ to be… The fact that you do not see this simple fact shows that you are deeply caught in your ‘i am the good guy’ bubble and don’t even realize the truth of it all because what not has to be cannot be 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/110 "2024-03-17T11:41:04Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Don’t be silly. Without pew pew and combat there’d be no _reason_ for anyone to make the vast majority of ships as nobody would be buying them. What would be the _point_ of mining for ore, if nobody was going to turn it into a ship ? What would be the point of making modules, ammo, etc, etc…if nobody was ever going to _use_ it ? > > Your alleged ‘minority’ is what keeps the entire game going. We combat people are the ones who create the destruction that necessitates new ships being built and miners going out to mine the materials. We keep the entire economy going. Again and again you people fail to grasp that Eve _needs_ destruction and is fundamentally based upon it for the economy to work at all. Well.i’n not silly…you prove to be by stating the same nonsense( i proved wrong many times now) over and over again like a record… 🙂 Just one remark : to repeat something multiple times does not let it materialize into existence regardless how hard you try 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/111 "2024-03-17T11:48:25Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > to repeat something multiple times does not let it materialize into existence regardless how hard you try Does that mean we will see an end of the ‘ganking is bad for Eve’ and other whiny posts that get repeated ad nauseum ? Or are you just oblivious to the hole you’ve dug yourself being about to emerge near Sydney Opera House ? Anyway…thanks for providing a perennially quotable quote ! ---
**Author:** ![Fano\_Alabel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fano_alabel/32/399859_2.png) [@Fano\_Alabel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fano_Alabel)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/112 "2024-03-17T12:21:53Z")
its a fact that your reply is bul\*\*\*\*it. Take it. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/113 "2024-03-17T12:26:36Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > This overdramatizing is exactly the problem Wait what? Aren’t you the one demanding a “PERMBAN” for me? After like 15 years not violating any rule of the game, just for expressing my opinion at the forums that EVE is an PvP game and if you are bored just go and try to blow some stuff up? Wasn’t you the one who stated that the game must “get rid of” players like me, who have helped more newcomers over the years with tips, tricks, experience, training and funds than you have any idea of? Wasn’t it you who racistical steretyped others of being “old white men” for disagreeing with changes that would change the game for the worse in their opinion? Wasn’t you the one calling other’s opinions “stupid and immature” without even engaging the argument, but the person behind it? Sorry boy, look into a mirror. You are clearly the one here who has defeated himself by your own words. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/114 "2024-03-17T13:09:35Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > The truth Except it’s not the truth. It was a pure vitriolic attack against people with a play style that you don’t like, and you want removed because you’re tushy-troubled over having lost your venture at some point. EvE was founded as a pvp game (Hilmar’s words. The _founder_ of EvE online) and the fact that you absolutely refuse to acknowledge that simple _fact_ goes to show the sheer level of cognitive dissonance and hate you have against the core central mechanic of this game and the players who have embraced it. Go play Farmville. Mic drop. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Crawla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_crawla/32/412885_2.png) [@ISD\_Crawla](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Crawla)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/115 "2024-03-17T13:13:14Z")
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**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/116 "2024-03-17T15:33:28Z")
> [@Fano\_Alabel](#): > > its a fact that your reply is bul\*\*\*\*it. Take it. I can take it but it’s still wrong…regardless what you say or state…because it IS wrong end of story… ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/117 "2024-03-17T15:36:18Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Sorry boy, look into a mirror. You are clearly the one here who has defeated himself by your own words. You simply do not see the wronging of your words ? Well,that’s expected but still sorry… Even after 15 years you learned NOTHING and still are quoting the wrong ‘facts’ about the game… Loud people yell it out,so it MUST be right,hm? This is really sad… ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/118 "2024-03-17T15:37:26Z")
And what of the listed things in your post i’m guilty of? Did you even READ what was thrown AGAINST me? Obviously not… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/119 "2024-03-17T15:39:02Z")
Excuse me, but you are falling into their forum trap. Better to just make you points calmly and don’t get baited. And yeah I know what you mean. ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419/120 "2024-03-17T15:39:39Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Does that mean we will see an end of the ‘ganking is bad for Eve’ and other whiny posts that get repeated ad nauseum ? Or are you just oblivious to the hole you’ve dug yourself being about to emerge near Sydney Opera House ? > > Anyway…thanks for providing a perennially quotable quote ! No that means that my hope is that you see your wrongness, admit that i’m right so i have no need to continue…but obviously you are too deep inside your bubble to even come CLOSE to this needed insight… SAD… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-way-to-keep-players-involved/441419.md?page=7)