# About hypernet **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 28, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120 "2024-10-28T18:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/27 "2024-11-03T01:11:55Z")
People don’t benefit from buying their own tickets, mathematically it’s no different than them buying tickets in someone else’s raffle. The reason people do this is because CCP has an unreasonable requirement that raffles complete quickly, so people are forced to buy their own tickets in order to complete the raffle. ---
**Author:** ![Andromecin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andromecin/32/439259_2.png) [@Andromecin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andromecin)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/28 "2024-11-03T05:35:16Z")
Your lying, the hypernet is not a negative sum game, you must be running hypernet orders. Most of these items are being snapped up in ways that cost the poster little to nothing. For example: Almost all the supercapitals being offered on the hypernet are in Podion and Misaba (Asset Safety systems) where the undock is perma camped, leaving people little option but to sell their items or get popped trying to get them out. Either way the people in the system acquire them at significant discount, or free. They post them on the Hypernet then buy half the tickets, at this point they have a 100% chance of getting back the money they paid for the tickets, because it’s their order, they have a 100% chance to the get the money for tickets everyone else bought, because it’s their order, plus they have a 50% chance to get the item they were raffling back, so they can post it again. They can usually manage this several times before they actually lose the item, meaning they have typically made ridiculous profit from cheating the system to get the item back plus half it’s hypernet value, which is almost always appraised by the system higher than the items typical in game value. Negative sum game my \_\_\_\_. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/29 "2024-11-03T10:27:37Z")
> [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](#): > > They will get 400 million ISK and stand 50% chance of winning the ship. You have 1 in 8 chance or 12.5% at best you spend 200 million ISK and still only have 25% chance to win. No, you don’t have a chance to win. You start loser, because it’s a negative sum game. The only way to win a stupid game, is to not play. You only win the hypernet when you are the owner of the system(CCP), the creator, or you don’t play it. Anyone who buys tickets is a loser. INCLUDING the creator. > [@Andromecin](#): > > Either way the people in the system acquire them at significant discount, or free. “minerals I mined myself are free”. Ok newbro. > [@Andromecin](#): > > They can usually manage this several times before they actually lose the item According to math and your numbers, it’s 2 on average. And they would make more money by not buying their own tickets, nevertheless. > [@Andromecin](#): > > Negative sum game my \_\_\_\_. I don’t know about your ass, but you are positiv salt gamer. And it’s still a negative sum game, meaning that there is value destroyed in the process. Anyway, that was a nice soup of BS. Very salty, with a little hint of that everlasting ignorance that makes all the spice of internet discussions. Thank you for the meal 🙂 I had forgotten how a genuine troll sounds like, with all those vested trolls in the forum weaponizing toxicity. That’s refreshing. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/30 "2024-11-03T16:37:52Z")
It’s just a legalized form of rigged gambling. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/36 "2024-11-03T18:53:17Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > It’s just a legalized form of rigged gambling. Why “rigged” ? It’s a legalized form of gambling. With CCP taking its share. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/37 "2024-11-03T19:25:12Z")
removed several off topic posts. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/38 "2024-11-03T22:47:05Z")
The Hypernet is a mini game that offers a level of excitement in a game that holds risk. > **Purchase or Manufacture a Ship** > > ![hypnet1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/7/1/57161023edbb5d91a6927990fe69d3536afc8962.jpeg) > **Create a Hyernet** > > ![hypnet2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/a/c/2ac1b5fe7dcdb3cdc456ed635d93dd5cbfbf1452.jpeg) > **Collect Payout After Hyernet is completed** > > ![hypner3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/b/c/9bc46b7974d1599b27daa1f8547ab03b4bf9d7b6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/39 "2024-11-03T22:54:53Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > legalized form of rigged gambling “Give me your watch I tell you what time it is” kind of thing. I write shorter meaning but Forum Popo delete it in a rage of censure. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/40 "2024-11-03T22:56:51Z")
> [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](#): > > “Give me your watch I tell you what time it is” kind of thing. Can you hold my camera and take our picture? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/41 "2024-11-04T06:57:00Z")
Real screenshots (instead of ones taken with a phone) from a Frostpacker? 🤔 👀 😏 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/42 "2024-11-04T08:58:00Z")
We now have in our possession a brand new set of metallic pencils to aid us with creativity while we mine. / > **hyoernet should list the new skins** > > ![IMG_6899](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/7/1/271609fcc54a6036ce9530b4a113d95c0d51dd66.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/43 "2024-11-04T08:59:55Z")
Consider posting some of your creations if you don’t mind revealing them. It can be a draft too or any stage work in progress, no need for finished artwork. Edit: Btw could you stop altering your posts after you posted them, sometimes I only see the edits days or weeks later. I understand `wordsalad`s are a Frostpacker’s thing, but this editing habit makes communication difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/44 "2024-11-04T09:01:22Z")
So you can make fun of them by calling them picturesalid? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/45 "2024-11-04T09:01:57Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > So you can make fun of them by calling them picturesalid? Nah I am just genuinely interested. But as I wrote if you don’t want to don’t feel being pressured. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/46 "2024-11-04T09:03:05Z")
> [@Alex\_xsy](#): > > ven to increasing hypercore consumption, e.g., spending twice as much on hypercores to create orders that last longer, decide on more or fewer hypercores based on the number of nodes. Hypernet is essentially a scam in its current form. Either the listing person buys a majority of the tickets or uses their alts to do so and garuntee they ‘win’ the item, or the items cost back every time. People will be glad to see it changed, if not removed outright. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/47 "2024-11-04T09:08:04Z")
Did you notice that there can be a winner with just one node purchase? ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/48 "2024-11-04T09:09:00Z")
A one node auction? Or if it ends an only one node is bought, that person wins? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/49 "2024-11-04T09:10:25Z")
There is an editorial process where / means an edit or // mean’s additional editing. / grammar // There is a chance that the hypernet could benefit from. That is adding a filter to make searching easier. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/50 "2024-11-04T09:11:19Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > editorial process Yes but the forum does not send a notification about edits so if I already saw the post and you edit after that then I will not see it, some cases for a long time or ever. // Though thinking about it `block`ing can resolve the issue in a satisfactory fashion. 😊 However it will cost you 1 bil ISK. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-hypernet/466120/51 "2024-11-04T09:32:22Z")
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