# About the changes to ore and moon mining and mineral (re)distribution

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996 "2020-02-11T17:22:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/85 "2020-03-07T22:40:39Z")

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> [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#):
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> Not surprised you don’t know how to do it though considering you also said an Orca does a third of a Skiff. Maybe you should get decent skills for the Orca and Drones as an Orca is much faster.

Much faster? Than a boosted skiff? sorry, but skiff gets cycle in less than 2minutes… essentially 1500m3 per minute + whatever drones do (300 or so).

> [@James\_Macdonnal](#):
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> but even with all 3 mining augment rigs, it’s literally only as fast as a makinaw

It is only as fast as boosted skiff, at least with t2 drones. Didn’t even bother checking augmented or harvester drones - those are illegal to begin with and subject to maller drive by confiscation.

> [@Antic](#):
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> Heres screenshots from Pyfa with above values

Why not frostlines for ore mining?

> [@Ultimate\_Acer](#):
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> So as ccp said it is a shortage Phase so hope it gets “better”

They have to short the supply for now… speaking from personal experience I bet people have a crapton of ores and minerals in station hangars. W/o depleting those stockpiles at all, any changes made would be meaningless outside of very long term (and no one is going to wait 2-3 years before seeing effect at all)

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**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/86 "2020-03-07T23:21:42Z")

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No and it shouldn’t be. We need more things moving in space, freighters full of minerals is good for business.

PS, Hi Sean ❤

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**Author:** ![Haze\_Vokan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haze_vokan/32/188660_2.png) [@Haze\_Vokan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haze_Vokan)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/87 "2020-03-10T01:01:02Z")

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> [@Cyrise](#):
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> Less targets is bad for the game…

Don’t eve bother trying to explain the Eve ecosystem to these plebs. The biggest 'krabber’s in this game are also among the most dominant forces in the game. Let them flaunt their narrow minded and conceited opinions like they know what they are talking about.

For everyone getting a bit upset…

Wait to see how everything plays out. While the short term may be a bit bumpy I believe they are trying to push the system to something more dynamic.

Just have patience. Don’t be hasty. Most people aren’t even getting past the multi phase plan… they just see immediate mining Nerf and get up in arms. There are much easier ways to make isk AFK without even logging into the game.

People just like to jump to conclusions… just like people like to jump on them and give them ■■■■ because they are internet forum warriors / trolls with anger and self worth issues.

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**Author:** ![Dalierin\_Burambagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dalierin_burambagor/32/288193_2.png) [@Dalierin\_Burambagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dalierin_Burambagor)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/88 "2020-03-10T07:36:04Z")

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Well, nerfing mining will just make the cost of ships more expensive which as indy player I like a lot. Hopefully they drop the minerals completely so the PVP goes more towards the frigate fights because its the only ship you can afford if you don’t do some indy yourself.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/89 "2020-03-10T08:25:33Z")

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> [@Haze\_Vokan](#):
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> The biggest 'krabber’s in this game are also among the most dominant forces in the game.

At doing what? Sitting on money piles doing exactly nothing?

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/90 "2020-03-10T13:17:42Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> At doing what? Sitting on money piles doing exactly nothing

I invest my money in a diverse portfolio ranging from bonds to loans. I’m a smart guy you see.

Btw my real life investments took a hit yesterday from the drop. ☹

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/91 "2020-03-10T13:30:46Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Btw my real life investments took a hit yesterday from the drop.

Sorry to hear that, man ☹

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/92 "2020-03-10T13:36:04Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Sorry to hear that, man

Yeah, if only my eve isk could be transferred to my bank account at a 1:1 dollar to isk ratio. Then we would all be rich.

CCP please start working on that asap. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ysonoko_lelexandrian/32/188953_2.png) [@Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ysonoko_Lelexandrian)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/93 "2020-03-10T14:23:32Z")

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Even at 1:100 ratio alot of us would be filthy rich 😆

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/94 "2020-03-10T14:28:56Z")

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Why be filthy rich when you could be filthy stinking absolute balls to the wall crazy rich?

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**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/95 "2020-03-14T00:38:59Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> Than a boosted skiff?

Boosted wan’t a factor just now. Maybe you should calm down.

> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> Didn’t even bother checking…

…my facts before I started my stupidity. Oh wait - didn’t someone also say something about inplants too…?..  
Lul.

> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> Why not frostlines for ore mining?

Bc sh1t. Why not Zoidberg? That makes as much sense as you.

> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> speaking from personal experience I bet…

…I can now surmise what everyone else does as I do everything right and only stupid people do things differently to me rrrrrrrRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Fk off.

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**Author:** ![Chunky\_Puffs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chunky_puffs/32/261818_2.png) [@Chunky\_Puffs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chunky_Puffs)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/96 "2020-03-31T06:09:49Z")

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The goal is to reduce the income for people doing semi afk stuff.

Will probably get a lot of people to play less and stay in alpha state.

They are killing gamestyles one, by one, Trading, Mining, all what they want is PvP, bcz it is the biggest isk sink.

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**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/97 "2020-03-31T17:04:08Z")

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> [@Chunky\_Puffs](#):
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> The goal is to reduce the income for people doing semi afk stuff.

That’s a great goal!! We should want to play the game while playing the game.

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**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/98 "2020-03-31T17:32:30Z")

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> [@Chunky\_Puffs](#):
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> The goal is to reduce the income for people doing semi afk stuff.

Goal is to at least remove tiny part of stockpiles made over years of wrong development and then fix the game. So you no longer can sit one null system/region and have 99% in game resources there.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/99 "2020-03-31T17:50:12Z")

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> [@Chunky\_Puffs](#):
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> They are killing gamestyles one, by one, Trading, Mining, all what they want is PvP, bcz it is the biggest isk sink.

All three are intrinsically linked, you can’t have one without the other two.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/100 "2020-04-01T22:45:02Z")

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> [@Chunky\_Puffs](#):
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> They are killing gamestyles one, by one, Trading, Mining, all what they want is PvP, bcz it is the biggest isk sink

Trading is still alive and well. So is mining - it is back to old school belt mining.

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**Author:** ![Fubar\_Acami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fubar_acami/32/198597_2.png) [@Fubar\_Acami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fubar_Acami)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/101 "2020-04-16T15:22:08Z")

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The only moon ore that ISNT compressible is Ubiquitous, so what the heck you talking about? Of course since they nerfed us, the only moon ore that can be mined is Ubiquitous. So the question is…when will this BS end. By the way that article sounds like a regular politician, they talk a lot and say nothing. Its vague at best.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/102 "2020-04-16T15:32:06Z")

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> [@Fubar\_Acami](#):
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> The only moon ore that ISNT compressible is Ubiquitous, so what the heck you talking about?

All moon ores are not compressible. Common, Uncommon, Rare and Exceptional as well.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/103 "2020-04-16T15:36:31Z")

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> [@Fubar\_Acami](#):
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> Of course since they nerfed us

They nerfed you? How did that happen?

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**Author:** ![Fubar\_Acami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fubar_acami/32/198597_2.png) [@Fubar\_Acami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fubar_Acami)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/about-the-changes-to-ore-and-moon-mining-and-mineral-re-distribution/218996/104 "2020-04-16T15:37:47Z")

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thats funny cause I have about a half billion worth of compressed moon ore sitting in a station container right now. Guess we are playing different games.

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