# Abyss Orange clouds affect armor repairers? Vedmak dead in T3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Tags:** pve, abyss\ **Created:** [May 22, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654 "2022-05-22T00:41:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/1 "2022-05-22T00:41:59Z")
I lost my dual rep Vedmak in a T3 firestorm tonight. I couldn’t understand what was sucking my cap dry. I was in an Orang eCloud, but as far as I knew, Eve Wiki does mention that the Orange clouds affects SHIELD regen only. NOT armor regen. If I knew I would have stayed away from the cloud. I issued a ticket for reimbursment. Is it only me or does somebody else didn’t know of it?? And also, How is it possible that a loaded Ancillary armor reparer would consume cap anyway?? It does makes absolutely no sense. The wiki mentions a percentage, to the Ancillary shield booster, of negative impact on the cap usage, but that should IMPLY that the ANCILLARY BOOSTER IS USING CAP IN THE FIRST PLACE… So many wrong pieces of VITAL INFORMATIONS THERE. WHO is responsible for writing the ABYSSAL WIKI??? The pockets will also contain clouds and Triglavian towers that apply effects to player and NPC ships in their immediate vicinity. Localized Clouds: - Filament Cloud (orange): Penalty to Shield Booster boosting (-40%) and reduction to shield booster duration (-40%). If using a conventional (not Ancillary) shield booster, in effect this does not weaken your shield booster, but rather increases its capacitor cost per second by 66%. If you rely on a shield booster to survive, you should avoid entering these clouds. The Ancillary repper in the video didn’t want to start again even after I exited what I think it was the cloud, I had to watch the video for see that. IF it was not the cloud was it an ancillary repper bug?? I just know that because of it all was lost. I don’t feel like it was my fault or anything like I could have done something wrong… there seems to be something I do not understand that caused the malfunction… PS: The GUI system needs a more reliant WARNING CAPABILITY. IF something is SUCKING your CAP DRY, It just cannot be just a stupid Orange ICON, which gives no INFORMATIONS on WHAT THE …xxx… is going on… Sorry… We neeed a better Alarm system and readable graphics of what is going on without having to Hoover over something which in a convulse situation can be frustrating to find, but some passive reading on the SHIP SIDE, like the Alarm that your Cap is going DRY, IT MAY BLINK RED IF ITS BEING NEUTED, or sorts, and it should point a blink on the culprit!! Be it a Ship, or in this case, a CLOUD!! I was also checking the log for clues, but it gave no clues!! [Vedmak, \*Vedmak ABYSS LOST] Federation Navy Medium Armor Repairer (it was a RF NAVY made with Mutaplasmid to good fittings stats, very hard to make, I wasted close to 1Bil only for this module in Mutaplasmids and trials…) Imperial Navy Multispectrum Energized Membrane Reactive Armor Hardener Dark Blood Multispectrum Energized Membrane Damage Control II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer 10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner Thukker Large Cap Battery Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier F-12 Enduring Tracking Computer Heavy Entropic Disintegrator II Small Energy Nosferatu II Small Energy Nosferatu II Small I-ax Enduring Remote Armor Repairer Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Valkyrie II x1 Optimal Range Script x2 Tracking Speed Script x1 Tetryon Exotic Plasma M x3158 Baryon Exotic Plasma M x2912 Meson Exotic Plasma M x2881 Occult M x9772 Mystic M x19843 Nanite Repair Paste x52 DED Turret Booster I x1 Synth Exile Booster x1 Smuggler Low Observability Booster I x1 DED Scan Booster I x1 Agency ‘Hardshell’ TB3 Dose I x1 DED Armor Booster I x1 DED Armor Booster II x1 Smuggler Blockade Running Booster II x1 I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW IS IT POSSIBBLE THAT THE ANCILLARY REP HASN’T WORKED… If someone can taka a look and try to illuminate me on what has been going on… At least I could prepare for futureproof my Abyssal runs… Whatever is, It makes no sense to me. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/1/e91f95884b2311eee8b7714548586128dbd48546.jpeg "EVE - ABYSS T3 FIRESTORM - VEDMAK - ANCIL REP - DEATH BY CLOUD???") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9TfDM80IeY) The Run Before in T2, went absolutely fine… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/3/5/035f8c8219a7f64027425b63365193cbf4c991d5.jpeg "EVE - ABYSS T2 FIRESTORM - VEDMAK DUOBLE REP 200HP/S") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk8Rhrv6kDw) ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/2 "2022-05-22T01:57:47Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > I couldn’t understand what was sucking my cap dry. > I was in an Orang eCloud, but as far as I knew, Eve Wiki > does mention that the Orange clouds affects SHIELD regen only. > NOT armor regen. If I knew I would have stayed away from the cloud. > I issued a ticket for reimbursment. > Is it only me or does somebody else didn’t know of it?? If you hover over the icon at the center of the UI in the cloud, I BELIEVE it applies to **all** repair modules. It was not a bug and if anything, it may be a typo, but I highly doubt it. Next time your in the abyss hover over that icon. > [@Queotzcatl](#): > > WHO is responsible for writing the ABYSSAL WIKI??? Players! Just like you and me not CCP ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/3 "2022-05-22T02:06:10Z")
That’s embarassing… Btw the fit was cap stable without the anc repper and it didn’t start even if I was outside of the supposedly cap draining cloud… something has gone terribly wrong there… ---
**Author:** ![Kylanti\_Hendar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kylanti_hendar/32/385538_2.png) [@Kylanti\_Hendar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kylanti_Hendar)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/4 "2022-05-22T07:17:47Z")
Ancillary armour reppers use cap both loaded and unloaded. Loaded they repair 3 times as much damage. This immediate effect is the reason that they are common in PvP fits. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/5 "2022-05-22T11:15:43Z")
The cloud makes repair modules cycle faster. Therefore, consuming more cap. Thus, capping you out causing your death. While you sit there with no AB and rep. ---
**Author:** ![Sten\_Taxi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sten_taxi/32/476126_2.png) [@Sten\_Taxi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sten_Taxi)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/6 "2022-05-22T11:41:14Z")
Ancillary armour reppers use cap, it’s the ancillary shield boosters that don’t use cap while loaded. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/7 "2022-05-22T16:27:44Z")
That is what boosted x3 repair amount means? I learned something new… ![LS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/2/9/129d8bff87c2296362524fcbded9f7562ce9901f.png) there is still the cloud itself, there has been no indications whatsoever I was in a cloud, both visually or by icons, or the log, none hinched at was going on, in the final moments I entered a blue cloud I think… I’m beginning to think there was no cloud… ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/8 "2022-05-22T16:46:45Z")
Their name should be changed in something less controversial, sharing the same ancillary name as the shield booster makes space for misinterpretation of the module functionality. I always associated it with something that does not use caps, and uses charges only, when loaded… They should be called Nanite Boosted Armor repair, NOT Ancillary Armor Repairers… Death by incompetence… how wonderful… ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/9 "2022-05-22T17:33:22Z")
There was no clouds, just an honorable death… ---
**Author:** ![Kylanti\_Hendar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kylanti_hendar/32/385538_2.png) [@Kylanti\_Hendar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kylanti_Hendar)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/10 "2022-05-22T20:46:47Z")
I don’t really like the name ancillary shield booster either. Changing the names of them both would suit me. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-orange-clouds-affect-armor-repairers-vedmak-dead-in-t3/363654/11 "2022-08-20T20:47:36Z")
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