# Abyss sites just aren't worth it **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [August 10, 2019, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-sites-just-arent-worth-it/181366 "2019-08-10T09:05:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-sites-just-arent-worth-it/181366/41 "2019-08-17T01:55:00Z")
That may be true but in most cases you don’t lose your ship and pod when you disconnect in New Eden. ---
**Author:** ![Kad3n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kad3n/32/258443_2.png) [@Kad3n](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kad3n)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-sites-just-arent-worth-it/181366/42 "2019-08-17T02:57:23Z")
Well it is a bit of surprise to see that the Corp/alliance discussion section cesspool in 2008/2012 has spread now to the entire forum in 2019. Makes a lot of sense why these forums are almost dead compared to back then. I do agree that the disconnection is quite unfortunate and this does lead me to believe that it is a possibility that it can be a bit on CCP side of the house when it comes to tech. Before I stopped playing in 2012 I was able to multibox (10) with multiple characters with no issues in at least 4 different states/ 3regions. Coming back to the game recently actively and there were some unexplained dc’s that nearly cost me my ship. Running their Net tool I am unsure how I lose packets to their server and not to some of the servers in Australia from the east coast. Good to know I am not the only one exp this issue. Depending on where you live, it could be a slight possibility that it is the infrastructure in your area just like it is for me. There is a noticeable difference when I was playing online games in west Texas compared to the east coast. I recommend utilizing their net diag program (which is a major improvement compared to 2012) + trace route to verify if the infrastructure may be the cause. I am unsure if this is something they have implemented in the past 5 or so years, but if there is some connection issue I did notice continually that my main account wouldn’t drop and the alt account I launched after would always drop connection. I would say that multi boxing in mining/missions are still a bit safer then maybe doing these Abyssal sites. If anything, if you are flat out broke and don’t want to plex, I recommend doing missions and grinding if you want to play solo. Joining a good corp in Eve is something that can make your life easier as Eve is not a solo friendly game and the difficulty in my opinion pretty significant if you are not apart of a corp. I do wish you luck and if I knew for sure I am not going to drop off for a few months I would tell you to send me an Eve mail and I would run some L3/4’s with you to help you get back on your feet. I understand the pain of the loss to things that are actually beyond your control. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-sites-just-arent-worth-it/181366/43 "2019-08-17T05:59:45Z")
Abyssal sites are worth running, they are fun. What would make them even more fun is if CCP added a manual dog fighting mechanic to the game during fights. Manually Dog Fighting would separate the real PvPers from the point and turn weapons on and orbit. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-sites-just-arent-worth-it/181366/44 "2019-08-17T06:23:54Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-sites-just-arent-worth-it/181366/45 "2019-11-15T06:28:35Z")
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