# Abyssal Dead Space Suggestion | Add This

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [August 26, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013 "2020-08-26T22:50:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/21 "2020-08-27T07:59:48Z")

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make it so abyssal t5 drops more loot would be great 2

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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/22 "2020-08-27T08:01:56Z")

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red loot price increase from 100.000 to 200.000 would be awesome 2

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**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/23 "2020-08-27T08:12:12Z")

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I heard EVE echoes rewards you for being a total carebare, no gank eithers in highsec in actual fact… no pvp at all. Sounds like your kinda place.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/24 "2020-08-27T11:27:04Z")

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> [@Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](#):
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> Gankers are the reason why i want this. I understand you that you dont care about them but i care about the game.

You care about yourself, not the game.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/25 "2020-08-27T13:31:57Z")

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So much red in this water…

Dunno man, seems fishy

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/26 "2020-08-27T14:09:05Z")

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This Topic has been moved to Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/27 "2020-08-27T14:11:17Z")

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The Mafia sees no point in this suggestion its nearly impossible to get ganked coming out of abyssal space. As said above the gankers probably scanned your bling gila and tracked your home down. (Really not hard)  
Then they just stalked you. Found you while your running and yah. I have lost a gila in the abyssals but never to gankers.

Just hide your bling don’t put your self on the gankers radar and be smart in anti gank methods. Its a lot more then brick tank.

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**Author:** ![Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sp3ngl3r_gipsydanger/32/198068_2.png) [@Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sp3NgL3R_GipsyDanger)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/28 "2020-08-27T21:48:01Z")

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I agree with you, but i dont have friends in eve and i cant run T4s since loot drop is very small and in T5s i get much better loot. I can take something from your advice there and try to make it happen.

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**Author:** ![Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sp3ngl3r_gipsydanger/32/198068_2.png) [@Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sp3NgL3R_GipsyDanger)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/29 "2020-08-27T21:51:13Z")

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Nah i cant do eve echoes, no mobile games only PC 😃

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/30 "2020-08-27T21:51:17Z")

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It’s incremental. I doubt T4s pay out less than 60-70% of T5s. Factor in the risk of losses from various sources, and it’s likely that T4s either result in higher income over time, or at least come very close to T5s.

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**Author:** ![Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sp3ngl3r_gipsydanger/32/198068_2.png) [@Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sp3NgL3R_GipsyDanger)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/31 "2020-08-27T21:55:06Z")

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If you know how to counter abyssal gank then tell me. But not to involve friends or any side help. I am Solo player thats why i do abyssal i do not depend on other people. So tell me how to solo prevent gank and also not to use 2nd accs just you on your own ?

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**Author:** ![Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sp3ngl3r_gipsydanger/32/198068_2.png) [@Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sp3NgL3R_GipsyDanger)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/32 "2020-08-27T21:57:43Z")

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Yes T4s pay less then T5s. Everyone who ever did t4s and t5s know this the isk is in T5s not t4s. And that how should be bigger risk comes bigger reward.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/33 "2020-08-27T21:58:50Z")

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Well, that’s what I _said_; T4s are around 60-70% of T5s.

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**Author:** ![Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sp3ngl3r_gipsydanger/32/198068_2.png) [@Sp3NgL3R\_GipsyDanger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sp3NgL3R_GipsyDanger)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/34 "2020-08-27T21:59:37Z")

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sorry, didnt understand at first 😃 XD

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-dead-space-suggestion-add-this/263013/35 "2020-11-25T21:59:46Z")

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