# Abyssal Deadspace now live on Singularity for testing **URL:** \ **Category:** Test Server Feedback\ **Created:** [April 26, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276 "2018-04-26T15:56:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/879 "2018-05-23T09:25:17Z")
> [@Brian\_Kith](#): > > The random nature of the spawns is entirely the problem here the whole concept of abyssal pockets is random spawns. to predetermine the spawns would make the content crap. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Blaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/horatio_blaster/32/74287_2.png) [@Horatio\_Blaster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Horatio_Blaster)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/880 "2018-05-23T09:27:27Z")
I ran a bunch of sites (50 or more a few weeks ago when they first came out) to get my fits figured out. Ishtar was working great to tier 3 and decent in 4’s though not great. My Deimos was getting through 3’s. Now they changed the aggro table so much that Drone boats are basically completely useless. If something doesn’t get drastically adjusted before this hits Tranquility I won’t even bother running a tier 1. A 500-600 million Ishtar should at the very least be able to get through a tier 3. I have nearly perfect skills and am not a bad pilot. Will run the Deimos again tomorrow, but not to optimistic there either. The Triglavian waves are especially out of balance with the other waves it seems as well. They are based on the RNG of the ship spawn sometimes simply impossible. On top of that as far as risk vs reward goes the loot table seems to be severely skewed to nnot even being worth it. at the moment it would appear I can make better isk hacking relics. With substantially less at risk… I was really looking forard to these sites. The more I run them on the test server the less thaat is the case. ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/881 "2018-05-23T09:27:36Z")
> [@Loreline\_Farcloud](#): > > to predetermine the spawns would make the content crap. Yes, but it should be so, that random spawns should force player to adapt strategy, not the fit of the ship. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/882 "2018-05-23T09:27:37Z")
There is a reason CCP breathed a light breath of “buff” on the HAC’s only months before this content was released, and it is clearly so that they are the ships to turn to for this content. Why is this a surprise to everyone. HACs have long lacked a real place in the game and now that CCP is giving them one everyone is complaining…? ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/883 "2018-05-23T09:28:15Z")
> [@Brian\_Kith](#): > > Remember, three of your mid slots are already committed before you even start talking about a tank: Prop, Web, Cap. The cerberus doesn’t require a web if fit with RLML. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/884 "2018-05-23T09:29:12Z")
You fit the ship as an omni tank. thats all the content is forcing you to do, and that is no hardship really. And surviving in the T4/T5 filaments is forcing the player to adapt strategy… ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/885 "2018-05-23T09:31:08Z")
> [@Ember\_Fireheart](#): > > I have a feeling the phantasm is one ship that would actually do well I thought that until i tested it. The resist profile is its biggest issue. ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/886 "2018-05-23T09:33:43Z")
> [@Loreline\_Farcloud](#): > > You fit the ship as an omni tank. thats all the content is forcing you to do Look at that: > [@Into The Abyss Ship Selection](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-ship-selection/77636/29): > > Ran a pair of Tier 4 Raging Exotic Filaments (+scan/-kinetic) with my Deimos fit. First one I managed to clear without incident and 5 minutes to spare. The second had a Trig Ghost, Harrowing, Starving and Tangling spawn ( 8 frigates + cruiser) and I only managed to last about 5 minutes under combined neut, damp and tracking disruption. Now how omni tank will help me to counter neut, TD and damps? I think there is more, than only omni tank, what is required for ship adaptation… ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/887 "2018-05-23T09:36:22Z")
> [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > the cerb lost to ehp/rr grind on stuff like battleships now depending on number of harrowing vedmaks you kill 1 out of 3 then maybe a 2nd after reload and third kills you. The reload on rapid lights means it pretty consistently loses the ehp/rr grind as in that 35s they repair the damage youve done and by the time you kill them you die to timer. I think its clear that on TQ the cerb is a no-go. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/888 "2018-05-23T09:38:36Z")
> [@Fluffy\_Moe](#): > > 3s need to be doable in T2s at a reasonable success rate. They are. As are (generally) Tier 4s. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Blaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/horatio_blaster/32/74287_2.png) [@Horatio\_Blaster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Horatio_Blaster)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/889 "2018-05-23T09:40:17Z")
not anymore by my estimation. new aggro table has made drone boats useless in 4’s and mostly useless in 3’s as well ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/890 "2018-05-23T09:42:10Z")
Yes! The vedmak will be awesome when it hits TQ and im excited to see how these ships (once they arrive in large enough numbers) impact the meta. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/891 "2018-05-23T09:49:02Z")
My eagle fit has changed somewhat since i last posted it. At work now but can share it with you in game later. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/892 "2018-05-23T09:58:17Z")
I have consistenly succeded in all the -res t4 filaments (gamma, firestorm, electrical and exotic) in a HAC with all resists above 75%. Large cap batteries help alleivate a little neut pressure - the onues is on you to prioritise targets. TD is made up for by skills and an implant (and tracking comp on an armour tanked ship). damps are not an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/893 "2018-05-23T10:00:57Z")
It is clear that CCP has aimed to give turret ships a breath of life with this content. If you try and use ships that are negatively impacted by the design criteria you are clearly going to lose. Missile/drone ships have had a place of dominance in the general meta (particularly pve) for a long time. CCP have seen this and are trying to give turrets prominance. So take the hint and don’t use a drone boat… Just like fighting blood raider ships where you know neut pressure is an issue you would not fly a heavy cap use laser ship for example and would compensate with cap-less damage systems, preferably with passive shield regen. This is similar. I really don’t get why people are complaining so much. There is plenty of content out there for drone ships. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/894 "2018-05-23T10:07:06Z")
Current cerb fit,well the one I flew yesterday a bunch obviously implants for missile dmg and application, swapping some gear for faction frees the rig slot so you can swap enhancer for 3rd bcu and add 2nd flare rig instead ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/895 "2018-05-23T10:12:43Z")
@Dark_Engraver I’m guessing on TQ you would bling this slightly with a republic fleet large cap battery to remove the need for the Medium Ancillary Current Router II and thereby allowing an additional rig to improve tank/damage application? I’ve started testing with republic fleet large cap battery’s and it does make a difference. and for 30m on TQ there is no reason why you wouldn’t use one. Also for example a faction web will ALWAYS be worth the money for this content! ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/896 "2018-05-23T10:14:08Z")
Yea among things that battery BTW the thukker one has 28%neut resist and tiny bit less cap rf has 27% I also forgot which slot mindflood goes into might be worth thinking about it basicly making a cap buffer tank of sort with battery and drug ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/897 "2018-05-23T10:16:41Z")
that additional 1% neut defense over the lose of cap recharge balances out _mostly_ and the additional cost makes it a less viable choice IMO. Also, not sure if you have noticed but neut behaviour has changed too. now slighly less threatening than it used to be and combined with npc group changes means the RF large cap battery has prominance. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276/898 "2018-05-23T10:18:00Z")
Slot 1 - same as blue pill/Exile. not worth the cap at expense of tank. thats what hardwiring implants are for. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276.md?page=42) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-now-live-on-singularity-for-testing/72276.md?page=44)