# Abyssal deadspace survey from CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 29, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939 "2018-06-29T17:57:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/82 "2018-07-02T14:05:59Z")
Filaments drops depend on the security status? Is it valid info? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/83 "2018-07-02T14:08:37Z")
I don’t know what the internal loot formula is. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/84 "2018-07-02T14:09:12Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > Filaments drops depend on the security status? Is it valid info? Nope, chance depend only on tier level, but Arthur wants to spin it that way to support his agenda. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/85 "2018-07-02T14:14:52Z")
You definitely can’t say that for certain and I’m not saying that for certain. Short of CCP acknowledging it (and why would they), it’s anyone’s guess. And even if they did, would anyone necessarily believe them? Filaments were officially announced without a suspect status. Then that changed. Filaments were originally going to be available fom NPC agents. That changed 24-48 hours prior to release. I take what CCP says with a garin of salt because it is subject to change whenever and wherever. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/86 "2018-07-02T14:19:34Z")
CCP never claimed the loot will be better in lower spaces. They added flag after CSM intervention because HS is safe 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/87 "2018-07-02T14:21:00Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > They added flag after null-sec intervention because HS is safe Fixed that for you. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/88 "2018-07-02T14:30:44Z")
Well judging from what I saw during my time spend here it’s hard to shake up the feeling the nullsec players do everything to put themselves in first placeby the cost of others. They have numbers and csm to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/89 "2018-07-02T14:45:49Z")
Our leadership has to keep nullsec highly profitable else who’d fight their wars.Everyone would run to highsec. And CCP wouldn’t get publicity of giant fights even tho those fights are tidifests with plenty of lag mixed in ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/90 "2018-07-02T17:39:41Z")
> [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > Our leadership has to keep nullsec highly profitable else who’d fight their wars.Everyone would run to highsec. I like how you say that everyone would run to highsec, not lowsec, sov null, wormholes or start over in null as a small group. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/91 "2018-07-02T18:06:21Z")
Personally I think CCP made a typo, it should read Abysmal. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/92 "2018-07-02T18:26:10Z")
The ships suck and cost too much, as was completely predicted before the content was ever released. Need a survey for that? ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/93 "2018-07-03T04:39:51Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > CCP never claimed the loot will be better in lower spaces. They added flag after CSM intervention because HS is safe HS is majority of player base and CSM is working against majority of their voters, interesting VERY INTERESTING FACT !!! ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/94 "2018-07-03T04:43:06Z")
> [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > And CCP wouldn’t get publicity of giant fights even tho those fights are tidifests with plenty of lag mixed in FYI: that is already hilarious joke in gamers community, they call it lag-fest-battle ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/95 "2018-07-03T05:13:50Z")
I don’t follow. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Sebiestar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_sebiestar/32/502522_2.png) [@Mina\_Sebiestar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Sebiestar)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/96 "2018-07-03T05:26:02Z")
> [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > And CCP wouldn’t get publicity of giant fights even tho those fights are tidifests with plenty of lag mixed in Health of a game over fake tidi splurge fest should be picked every and all times.CCP biggest failure sandbox strength is lost if catered at any direction non proportionally…pretty simple don’t pad backs of selected group…its dumb thing to do. created char 1st time on steam to get fancy skins and galaxy packs 50% off for my main to show off in space fizzling around,that char(now biomassed with 3 month omega time still ticking) got the survey… a few hours old char…finding that funny they should re focus target group some. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/97 "2018-07-03T09:00:18Z")
I must use dictionary because I didn’t see the pun 😀 Nah, it’s not that bad. In fact, I runned them for more than 2 weeks every day and had fun even if the loot wasn’t that great. AP need lot’s of tweaks. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Amril-Kesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_amril-kesh/32/58231_2.png) [@James\_Amril-Kesh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Amril-Kesh)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/98 "2018-07-03T14:19:25Z")
Actually I had quite a lot of success running tier 5 electricals with a Zealot once I figured out what I was doing. I wouldn’t recommend trying it in other types of weather though. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/99 "2018-07-03T21:14:30Z")
> [@James\_Amril-Kesh](#): > > Actually I had quite a lot of success running tier 5 electricals with a Zealot once I figured out what I was doing. > > I wouldn’t recommend trying it in other types of weather though. Yup Electrical are unique in this fashion though. They are by default more friendly to laser boats due to cap regen and the NPC ships getting an EM resist penalty. Phantasm is another decent ship for them, that speed tank on it … Its a real bummer they suck in the other ones though. Alltogether when everything is said and done, I still won’t run these anymore until I see some real major changes. At current prices the average loot does not cover the costs of average ship + fit + implants + boosters. Sure there are exceptions to this, people getting lucky on either spawn RNG which enables them to run enough sites, or drop RNG, but need to focus on averages, not the exceptions. And this all just from the PvE aspect, doesn’t even touch the whole getting ganked on exit thing on top of that. ---
**Author:** ![Khergit\_Deserters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khergit_deserters/32/319315_2.png) [@Khergit\_Deserters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khergit_Deserters)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/100 "2018-07-03T22:43:26Z")
I keeping reading “abyssal” as “abysmal.” ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939/101 "2018-07-04T03:03:11Z")
Got 4 leshak yesterday o was hoping to source the materials myself but it wasn’t really feasible so had to buy them [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-deadspace-survey-from-ccp/85939.md?page=6)