# Abyssal Pockets and the Ships to Run Them **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [April 20, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923 "2018-04-20T15:01:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Nick\_Garth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_garth/32/411396_2.png) [@Nick\_Garth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Garth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/303 "2018-05-01T07:44:08Z")
I am trying only Tier V Filaments for now, thinking lower tiers should be easier. The biggest challenge for me is those pockets with a drifter battleship + 10 neuting drifter cruisers. It is doable with Gila, but it is slow and always I go kaboom in the last pocket when the timer expires. Here is the fit I use (slightly changed compared to the previous one I posted): [Gila, Abyss Tier V LRML] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Valkyrie II x2 Hammerhead II x4 Vespa II x2 Infiltrator II x2 Inferno Fury Light Missile x2000 Scourge Fury Light Missile x2080 ---
**Author:** ![Hipqo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hipqo/32/10696_2.png) [@Hipqo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hipqo)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/304 "2018-05-02T07:55:01Z")
XL-Shield Booster Cerberus rocks!! You can facetank 2k dps with the ADC (for 15 secs, but thats enough to take the damage down to a manegable level) and you can apply almost 100% damage with rapid lights, on the rogue drones!! ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/305 "2018-05-02T09:05:54Z")
If we are to assume each minus res site was ccp idea of giving an advantage to each race,caldari drew the shortest straw with increased scanres and amarr got the best deal with cap recharge in electrical sites.Both minmatar and gallente got plus hp for their fav dmg types. Currently dark matter is the worse site since the rats keep their high omnitanks and the drone swarms are very hard to track. ---
**Author:** ![Erethond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erethond/32/11049_2.png) [@Erethond](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erethond)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/306 "2018-05-02T16:11:51Z")
Actually minmatar have the best t2 resists for em, are often bonused for active tank and can deal mostly em damage with the emp shells. I think they work better than amarr for em pockets. Amarr are stuck in a weird place with their t2 resist being best explosive. The missile HAC with exp missiles could do quite well though, I bet. The armor and shield bonuses are a mixed blessing if that applies to NPCs as well. It’ll take you longer to chew through their armor too. At least shield up buffs passive shield recharge so it makes tanking easier, but armor only makes you last a bit longer. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/307 "2018-05-02T16:14:33Z")
the shield and armor ones are not equal in the impact on your performance let me explain the tiny drones have 1000 armor each base only like 300 shield the drone bs boss has 25k armor and only like 11k shield.Also triglavians they’ll be armor too with tiny shields ---
**Author:** ![Erethond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erethond/32/11049_2.png) [@Erethond](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erethond)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/308 "2018-05-02T16:17:49Z")
Fair point. But my original point stands: both increase the ehp to chew through and that’s already a challenge, while giving a bonus that’s not that great except for passive shield fits. ---
**Author:** ![Hipqo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hipqo/32/10696_2.png) [@Hipqo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hipqo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/309 "2018-05-03T06:48:31Z")
Has anyone actually seen Triglavians in the Abyssal Pockets? I find it kinda crappy that we find tech to invade their space, but they are never home, yet there are blueprints and stuff all over 😛 How about NPC vs NPC? Drones killing drifters? Drifters killing triglavians? Has anyone seen that yet? ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/310 "2018-05-03T07:10:00Z")
they’re being added soon and you won’t like it^^ ---
**Author:** ![Pookie\_McPook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pookie_mcpook/32/289877_2.png) [@Pookie\_McPook](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pookie_McPook)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/311 "2018-05-03T07:51:45Z")
> [@Eternal\_Montage](#): > > I hate to say it but I predict the Gila will be the ship of choice… again… I fear the current lovefest with all things Gila in recent events points to an incoming nerf at some point not too far down the road. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/312 "2018-05-03T07:55:18Z")
the gila is actualy pretty crapy -pick up a variation of tier 5 filaments use the best fit you can think of for each site and tell me how many you died in and how many you completed. It can do lower tiers quite well tho but other ships can do those even faster ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/313 "2018-05-03T09:06:50Z")
The Gila will be fine up until about F3 at which point it just won’t have enough DPS or application. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/314 "2018-05-03T09:43:32Z")
how come? didn’t you say we would soon face demavik and vedmak triglavian ships ---
**Author:** ![Hayleen\_Gordon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hayleen_gordon/32/55325_2.png) [@Hayleen\_Gordon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hayleen_Gordon)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/315 "2018-05-03T10:12:21Z")
I’m thinking about an active Tank Onyx [Onyx, Abyssal] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Pith C-Type EM Ward Field 10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Medium Cap Battery Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile [empty high slot] Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II Medium Ancillary Current Router II 600 dps No drone management 80-90% resists Battery for neuts Flare Rig for frigs Can replace the shield extender for something more usefull but it is a bit safer with it. Someone tested an onyx on Sisi ? ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/316 "2018-05-03T10:21:38Z")
you will really struggle with damage application against the drone swarms. esp with rage missiles! ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/317 "2018-05-03T10:40:29Z")
hams aplicattion is really bad on the frigs inside if you don’t get a light supressor the time wasted will get you killed ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/318 "2018-05-03T16:43:34Z")
Thus far my most reliable ship for tier5 dark matter field has been cerberus all minus res ishtar.I did Initially drive an orthrus through a dark matter field learned from my mistakes and improved unfortunately rlml are in a bad spot cuz of reload times so reverted to heavies ---
**Author:** ![Altimo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altimo/32/69296_2.png) [@Altimo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altimo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/319 "2018-05-03T19:32:13Z")
I couldn’t finish a DM field level 5 with a cerberus =x the rapid lights just reload too slow for me and when I came up against the drone bs I wasn’t doing enough damage. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/320 "2018-05-03T19:42:55Z")
Yup had that happen rlml is no go in tier5 dark matter ---
**Author:** ![Fzhal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fzhal/32/56283_2.png) [@Fzhal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fzhal)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/321 "2018-05-04T03:47:34Z")
Only Triglavs and BS drones give energy from Nosferatu. They need to fix that, especially getting nothing from drifters. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/322 "2018-05-04T04:16:53Z")
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