# Abyssal Pockets and the Ships to Run Them **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [April 20, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923 "2018-04-20T15:01:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villiam_kaardanen/32/85484_2.png) [@Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villiam_Kaardanen)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/81 "2018-04-23T17:53:26Z")
there’s also additional things to consider: 1. both Sleeper and Rogue drones MWD to you (range changes is usually at the cruiser lvl but the frigates will surely get to you quickly) 2. we dont know the speed at which Triglav ships move, taking in account Entropic Disintegrators are close range weapons (because all optimal no falloff thing) then they will probably also try to close fast into you 3. Drifters, i dont know the range and accuracy of those fuckers but its probably OP 4. certain Sleeper and Rogue drones shoot missiles and thus will always have a clear shot on you. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/82 "2018-04-23T19:40:39Z")
> [@Chan\_aar](#): > > Really? Don’t bet on that, even with the tight space there is. You can’t engage warp inside the Abyssal pockets. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/83 "2018-04-23T19:44:43Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > You can’t engage warp inside the Abyssal pockets. CCP said **we** can’t warp in the pockets. Until they hit SISI and we can test them I’ll hold off on believing the npc’s won’t be able to ping around. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/84 "2018-04-23T20:31:06Z")
There’s only so much running you can do especially with the fear of leaving the 150km bubble and especially with a multitude of rats going full mwd at you kiting may work for some weaker pockets perhaps. But then again we don’t know what CCP defines as level of hard pve for a solo player confined to a certain ship size it may be that my excitement over this being difficult is unfounded and all tiers could turn into a disappointing time sink than a test of abilities ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/85 "2018-04-23T20:34:01Z")
Sounds a bit like some mini-AT. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/87 "2018-04-23T22:06:28Z")
[Zealot, Zealot - Trig smasher] Damage Control II Imperial Navy 400mm Steel Plates Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Thukker Large Cap Battery 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Medium Anti-Thermal Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II ---
**Author:** ![Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luigi_mon-de-sound/32/422750_2.png) [@Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luigi_mon-de-sound)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/88 "2018-04-23T22:14:03Z")
I don’t think buffer amor is the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/89 "2018-04-23T22:15:03Z")
Its supposed to be combined with logi. ---
**Author:** ![Ricky\_F\_Digits](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_f_digits/32/42165_2.png) [@Ricky\_F\_Digits](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_F_Digits)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/90 "2018-04-23T22:18:42Z")
Well if its anywhere close to a 5/10 sentries would work fine. I don’t even use 150km of space for those. Really though it will depend on the frigate and crusier speeds. If frigates are fast enough to separate from cruisers then it should be fine. Most frigs go down to 2 salvos maybe 3 at range for elites. So kill frigs then reposition to the opposite side of the bubble…considering I have never seen any cruiser level sites or even BC level sites with speeds over 1000m/s my fit going 1800+m/s should easily be able to reposition on the rats just fine, even if it means I am using medium or lights to clear some stuff as I reposition. That’s just my take though…guess we will find out soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villiam_kaardanen/32/85484_2.png) [@Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villiam_Kaardanen)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/91 "2018-04-23T22:20:15Z")
sorry for breaking the Zealot dream but, Abyssal space is solo content. solo as in only the person that used the filament can enter. so no logi backup. ---
**Author:** ![Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luigi_mon-de-sound/32/422750_2.png) [@Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luigi_mon-de-sound)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/92 "2018-04-23T22:22:58Z")
How are you going to get logi in a solo site? ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/93 "2018-04-23T22:54:23Z")
Ehehehehehehehe…the zealot dream continues but in a solo way. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/94 "2018-04-23T22:54:43Z")
Good question I’m going to figure that out now. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/95 "2018-04-24T00:26:56Z")
I may be wrong, but I don’t think hull or armor buffer tanks are going to cut it in these. I think you’re going to need some kind of active repair to survive. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/96 "2018-04-24T01:22:37Z")
I believe cap stable active tank is the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/97 "2018-04-24T01:32:50Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > I believe cap stable active tank is the way to go. I’m also thinking 1-2 cap batteries if you can fit them. ---
**Author:** ![Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villiam_kaardanen/32/85484_2.png) [@Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villiam_Kaardanen)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/98 "2018-04-24T01:37:02Z")
pretty much yeah, and high resists (omniresists) since there will always be one resistance hole due to weather, if it was possible to run 4 hardeners at once then it would be easy but it would take a lot of cap to keep it along with the reps. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/99 "2018-04-24T02:03:57Z")
[Zealot, Zealot - Trig smasher] Damage Control II Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Armor Thermal Hardener Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Reactor Control Unit II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Thukker Large Cap Battery 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II That and a full set of High Grade Asklepian ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/100 "2018-04-24T02:04:53Z")
Actually maybe the muninn is better. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/101 "2018-04-24T02:07:54Z")
Think you may need a stasis web. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923.md?page=6)