# Abyssal Pockets and the Ships to Run Them **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [April 20, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923 "2018-04-20T15:01:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villiam_kaardanen/32/85484_2.png) [@Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villiam_Kaardanen)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/102 "2018-04-24T02:11:00Z")
[Zealot, Zealot - Trig smasher] Damage Control II Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Adaptive Nano Plating II Adaptive Nano Plating II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script 10MN Afterburner II Medium Cap Battery II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Medium Anti-Thermal Pump II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II yeah perhaps swap the tracking computer for a web. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/103 "2018-04-24T02:21:56Z")
[Muninn, Muninn - trig slayer] Damage Control II Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Energized Explosive Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Explosive Membrane Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Thukker Large Cap Battery Stasis Webifier II 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M [empty high slot] Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Again a full set of high grade asklepians… Keep in mind i’m not in game and used an outdated version of a fitting tool on android… ---
**Author:** ![Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villiam_kaardanen/32/85484_2.png) [@Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villiam_Kaardanen)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/104 "2018-04-24T02:57:11Z")
i dont understand some stuff with those fittings: 1. with the inherently high resistances of T2 ship, wouldnt it be better to cover all 4 using T2 (or better) nanoplatings/invuls? then use one of the T2 rig slots for any missing amount in the weakest resist. 2. i know HACs have some bonuses for MWD but againt the new NPC AI wouldnt that be dangerous? i mean, they could get shut down by the rats via scrams. AB would be safer and less cap intensive. 3. why large cap battery for everything? the Zealot had only a few minutes of cap with the large one, changing to a T2 medium one and a T2 CCC rig gave enough capacior power to keep permatank. wouldnt that be safer taking in account the difficulity of the rats? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/105 "2018-04-24T03:22:57Z")
1. Yes. I would actually run a T2 EANM and RAH instead of two explosive membranes. Also, the Deadspace C-Type are dirt cheap and probably a better choice than Faction. 2. You’re going to need a MWD to get around. An afterburner (even 100MN) just isn’t going to cut it. Not too mention that you’ll have trouble fitting a 100MN afterburner and large cap battery. 3. Because more capacitor. Chances are these pockets are going to have neuts. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/106 "2018-04-24T04:37:07Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > You’re going to need a MWD to get around. An afterburner (even 100MN) just isn’t going to cut it. Um, just exactly where did you get that info from? Considering the fact that the Abysmal Pockets are going to be small, I highly doubt a MWD will be much help, plus they can be shut down with scram. Also MWD’s increases ship signature as well as cost a lot of CPU/Powergrid for fitting. I use Afterburner on all of my PvE fits and have never had any problems with it. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/107 "2018-04-24T04:41:32Z")
The individual pockets are reported to be around 100-150km in size, so if you have to transit several of these I think an AB is just going to be too slow. You could be right, though. I guess we’ll know more when they start showing up on Sisi. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/108 "2018-04-24T04:54:52Z")
Only takes a few minutes to transverse 100 to 150km with an Afterburner fit. If need be, I’ll just rush thru the first pocket and only kill web NPC’s to make sure I have plenty of time to take out the big Boss NPC in the 3rd pocket. I’m thinking he’ll be the one holding the good loot. Anyway, I’m sure the forums will be filled with ‘Perfect Abysmal Ship Fit’ threads within the first week of the expansion. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/109 "2018-04-24T05:06:47Z")
He can always aggro the hostile npc logi ships. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/110 "2018-04-24T05:52:07Z")
> [@Villiam\_Kaardanen](#): > > i dont understand some stuff with those fittings: > > with the inherently high resistances of T2 ship, wouldnt it be better to cover all 4 using T2 (or better) nanoplatings/invuls? then use one of the T2 rig slots for any missing amount in the weakest resist. That’s why I would consider an active armor tank. With the reactive hardener it doesn’t matter which resist is going to suffer from “weather” or else effect - it shifts right where it needs to go. So the Deimos or the Zealot would be good contenders here. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/112 "2018-04-24T06:13:02Z")
Oh you so funny…make me laugh long time. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/113 "2018-04-24T06:14:16Z")
You can edit your own posts too no need to delete them. I think you can also un-delete them if you want. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/114 "2018-04-24T06:14:27Z")
Piss off. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/115 "2018-04-24T06:14:59Z")
🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/116 "2018-04-24T06:24:24Z")
instead of insulting me you could address why the muninn is potentially a problem. but no instead of doing that you just want to be a troll \*\*\*\*\* I have nothing further to say. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/117 "2018-04-24T06:25:27Z")
😂 ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/118 "2018-04-24T06:30:46Z")
so for those of you who ACTUALLY care about contributing to the conversation instead of being ■■■■ heads. here is a cap stable muninn i think could work. [Muninn, Muninn] Damage Control II Corpii A-Type Explosive Plating Corpii A-Type Explosive Plating Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Thukker Large Cap Battery Tracking Computer II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Hobgoblin II x5 Republic Fleet Fusion M x800 Tracking Speed Script x1 ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/119 "2018-04-24T07:42:20Z")
Why not 425mm autos? ADC II instead of DC II? 2 x explosive plating but you will have kinetic resistant hole. DPS is low, I don’t fly Hacs, all of them are so meh or just this Odins bird? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/120 "2018-04-24T09:51:50Z")
I like the Muninn, it has more bonus for projectile. However no utility high slot but it does have an extra low slot compared to the Vagabond (still like the Vaga). I think a shield buffer tank with active resist will work. Muninn (HAC) 5x 425mm AC II in high slots. Large Shield Extender, Invul Field, 10MN Afterburner, Tracking Computer -w- Range/Tracking Script in mid slots. Assault Damage Control, Power Diagnostic System, 2x Gyro, Tracking Enhancer, Drone Damage Amp in low slots. 1x Med Anti-Kinetic II, 1x Med Anti-Explosive II in rig slots. 5X T2 Light Drones Not sure about the Drone Damage Amp mod, basically was thinking Drones could be used as an emergency ‘Get Out Of Jail’ action. Guess it depends on how the sites are, if not good for drones then I’ll just fit another Gyro. Course I’ll probably fit Faction/Deadspace mods for buffed stats. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/121 "2018-04-24T10:00:09Z")
I think we need active tank for pockets (cap stable). Also web, for the frig size drones. Hacs will be perfect because it’s always ADC II if things goes sideways. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923/122 "2018-04-24T10:01:45Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > I think we need active tank for pockets (cap stable) Yep. And we will know more when it hits SiSi. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pockets-and-the-ships-to-run-them/70923.md?page=7)