# Abyssal PVP First Impressions

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 15, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556 "2018-11-15T04:37:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rezinax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rezinax/32/106629_2.png) [@Rezinax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rezinax)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/21 "2018-11-15T17:08:35Z")

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> reposting here since reddit is just, just horrible. anyways.

\*reposting here since evil redditors told me that my killboard doesn’t make me super skilled and space important

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**Author:** ![MP2008](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mp2008/32/196210_2.png) [@MP2008](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MP2008)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/22 "2018-11-15T19:11:01Z")

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I had a stalemate last night as well. I’ve heard that they are thinking of introducing a resistance penalty that kicks in after 5 minutes. That might stop stalemates.

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**Author:** ![MP2008](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mp2008/32/196210_2.png) [@MP2008](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MP2008)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/23 "2018-11-15T19:17:00Z")

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You can talk all the junk you want to, but at the end of the day yes in fact a killboard is like a Resume. You can tell a lot about a players tactics and play style by the information obtained there. What kind of fits do they like to fly? Their most active timezones? Are they mostly PVP or PVE or a mix? Who and what do they typically engage? Who their sneaky alt affiliates might be. Are they usually cyno bait? The list goes on and on.

So when I say that mine matters when you examine it to see if I have a clue about what I’m talking about consider that A. Have tens of thousands of kills and my fair share of losses too. Look and see that while I have killed caps and such my preferred target is small gang combat which is much more skill intensive. And primarily in lowsec.

So yes I do know what I am talking about. If you wish to rebut me, post your main. I have no time for the meta gaming nonsense from cowards who hide behind secondary characters.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/24 "2018-11-15T20:11:45Z")

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> [@MP2008](#):
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> So yes I do know what I am talking about. If you wish to rebut me, post your main. I have no time for the meta gaming nonsense from cowards who hide behind secondary characters.

Your opinion is worth the same as every other customer, key word being customer.

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**Author:** ![zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zen-vexor01_lsg/32/106581_2.png) [@zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zen-vexor01_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/25 "2018-11-15T20:38:00Z")

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customers, customers, customers, customers, so hard word, before the customer was here to gave legitimacy to the CCP, and now customers will will be asked for the money.  
The new roles of customers will certainly lead to a new offers and contents that will be provided to customers, Abbysal PVP is just beginig and I am very very pleased with it 👍

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**Author:** ![Tzar\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzar_sinak/32/39415_2.png) [@Tzar\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzar_Sinak)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/26 "2018-11-16T02:29:31Z")

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Secure from ganks? I was ganked as soon as I left the site and entered K Space. Not secure at all lol

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**Author:** ![Sitting\_Bull\_Lakota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sitting_bull_lakota/32/438272_2.png) [@Sitting\_Bull\_Lakota](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sitting_Bull_Lakota)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/27 "2018-11-16T03:45:03Z")

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Two blinged ships enter, one blinged ship leaves? That sounds like some pretty high stakes pvp. Can we get more of this? I think we need more of this.

Edit: Can we get battleship and Carrier versions of this?

How awesome would that be? Officer fit marauders and capitals sluggin it out in 1v1’s where the real reward isn’t the pocket reward, but the modules you get off the other gladiator’s wreck and the rush of risking half your net worth as a grizzled old vet on deathmatch.

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/28 "2018-11-16T03:57:43Z")

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> [@MP2008](#):
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> Anything less and youre kinda riding down a staircase firing an uzi praying to jesus you dont run into a bad spawn.

Um… so what is the problem here?

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/29 "2018-11-16T09:05:38Z")

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> [@Tzar\_Sinak](#):
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> Secure from ganks?

INSIDE the site.

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**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/30 "2018-11-16T09:23:11Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> Get rid of Abysmal spalce

Yeah!!! Down with Abysmal spalce whatever that is!!!11!!

> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> secure from ganks.

That’s not what the hundreds of people who get ganked on exit prove.

> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> INSIDE the site.

In spalce?

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/31 "2018-11-16T09:56:19Z")

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> [@Tzar\_Sinak](#):
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> Secure from ganks? I was ganked as soon as I left the site and entered K Space. Not secure at all lol

they should have bought an abyssal permit.

only 200M, renewable every month.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/32 "2018-11-16T11:36:55Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> they should have bought an abyssal permit.  
> only 200M, renewable every month.

Brilliant ! Thanks 😁

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**Author:** ![zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zen-vexor01_lsg/32/106581_2.png) [@zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zen-vexor01_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/33 "2018-11-16T11:39:09Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> only 200M, renewable every month.

The que was too long, sorry I could not wait so long, so I gave up … 🤣

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**Author:** ![Haedonism\_Bot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haedonism_bot/32/361930_2.png) [@Haedonism\_Bot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haedonism_Bot)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/34 "2018-11-16T13:13:19Z")

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Send the 200m to this character, I’ll get you sorted immediately. Just remember to obey the Abysmal Code as well or your permit may be invalidated.

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**Author:** ![zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zen-vexor01_lsg/32/106581_2.png) [@zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zen-vexor01_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/35 "2018-11-16T13:16:33Z")

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> [@Haedonism\_Bot](#):
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> Send the 200m to this character, I’ll get you sorted immediately. Just remember to obey the Abysmal Code as well or your permit may be invalidated.

Muhahahahahahahaha …  
you so funnny

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![Filip\_Coward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/filip_coward/32/470082_2.png) [@Filip\_Coward](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Filip_Coward)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2018, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/36 "2018-11-22T09:46:45Z")

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I’m sorry dude but you play the wrong Game!!

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2018, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/37 "2018-11-22T10:05:24Z")

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> [@Filip\_Coward](#):
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> I’m sorry dude but you play the wrong Game!!

Nice statement but completly ignoring the fact that PA/CCP is already turning the ship’s sails into the mainstream winds…it just takes its time to alter course because eve is no speedboat…

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/38 "2018-11-22T10:12:55Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> the fact that PA/CCP is already turning the ship’s sails into the mainstream winds

sorry but how is this a fact ? Do you have an official declaration of CCP/PA that says so ?

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/39 "2018-11-22T10:17:27Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> sorry but how is this a fact ? Do you have an official declaration of CCP/PA that says so ?

Do you need them?

Just take wardec nerf as an example and go into the future and see iwardec nerf as the first of many changes to come…as far as i’m concerned i already feel the ship turning…

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-first-impressions/120556/40 "2018-11-22T10:18:50Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Do you need them?

No, YOU need them in order to affirm it as a fact.

Otherwise it’s not FACT, it’s YOUR OPINION, and you are lying by saying YOUR OPINION is FACT.  
And thus, your whole argument can be disregarded as being a dishonest propaganda.

If you have source that says so, however, it becomes fact, and thus your argument is based on sourced affirmation, that can possibly lead to meaningful discussion.

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