# Abyssal PVP in July, now Ressource wars - what is going on at the moment?

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**Created:** [November 19, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-in-july-now-ressource-wars-what-is-going-on-at-the-moment/280733 "2020-11-19T13:30:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-in-july-now-ressource-wars-what-is-going-on-at-the-moment/280733/13 "2020-11-19T18:07:05Z")

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Resource wars were a decent concept poorly executed.

They were made even more redundant by group abyss space. And if they are ever reinstated it will hopefully be done with abyss space.

(instances suck but they don’t have many of the pitfalls group pve has in the sandbox)

I’ll just plant this here:

> [@Abyss Style Group PvE](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyss-style-group-pve/187476):
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> TLDR Abyss sites designed for group PvE that uses Alliance Tournament like restrictions. Low tier sites don’t kill you if you fail. They just eject you. Disclaimer: I’m not a fan of instances and not a fan of abyss space (I was in two minds about posting this at all). However, Abyss space is probably here to stay and, despite my lack of love for abyss space and instances, I do think it is the way to get the most out of group PvE. Disclaimer 2: I am not very well versed on writing in these …

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