# Abyssal ship that is not a Gila **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [June 30, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740 "2019-06-30T15:17:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/1 "2019-06-30T15:17:56Z")
Hi, I want to try abyss, currently looking at T3’s (filaments) and simply looking for ship advice that is not a gila. Any ideas what will be worth trying or even worth taking to T4 filaments later? ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/2 "2019-06-30T15:35:33Z")
Gila for the win 💩 Honestly look at the Gila’s traits and work towards that. 1. Missiles. 2. Drone bonus. 3. Ability to have a great passive tank. 4. Small signature. 5. Quick with AB on. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/3 "2019-06-30T15:40:13Z")
T3 cannot enter abyssal space. Deimos, Sacrilege, Curse, Cerberus among other ships are also popular choices. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/4 "2019-06-30T15:58:36Z")
I mean, T3 filaments. ---
**Author:** ![Ggothua\_Kondur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ggothua_kondur/32/121718_2.png) [@Ggothua\_Kondur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ggothua_Kondur)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/5 "2019-06-30T18:06:46Z")
Ikitursa. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/6 "2019-06-30T19:00:40Z")
this ^ ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/7 "2019-06-30T19:09:25Z")
Great option to consider. But at this moment I’m not near to be able to spend 1 bil just for hull. But will try to give it a try later. Well, it seams i’m stuck with boring gila for now 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/8 "2019-06-30T19:28:03Z")
> [@Sordina](#): > > Great option to consider. But at this moment I’m not near to be able to spend 1 bil just for hull. I don’t know where you are but around here (Black Rise) a Gila hull goes for 190-260 million. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/9 "2019-07-01T05:46:31Z")
> [@Ggothua\_Kondur](#): > > Ikitursa. Which is about 800 mil in Jita. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/10 "2019-07-01T10:40:22Z")
Ok, anyone have good gila fit just as guideline? Since in google there is bunch of “op” gilas that people comment as wrong fits etc. I just started doing abyss so I’m rookie in this. ---
**Author:** ![Postal\_Pshyco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/postal_pshyco/32/144645_2.png) [@Postal\_Pshyco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Postal_Pshyco)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/11 "2019-07-01T11:25:31Z")
sacrilege is popular for dark filaments, suitonia made a youtube about it for t5. can be much cheaper for t3 & t4 and should be able to do all filament types iirc. other alternatives i have seen are zealot, vagabond, cerb and vedmak. so yea there are alternatives, which are depending on filament type superior to the gila. gila is just the save and easy option for most people. ---
**Author:** ![Hayduke\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hayduke_artrald/32/394244_2.png) [@Hayduke\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hayduke_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/13 "2019-07-01T21:30:55Z")
I like running T3 with my vagabond. ---
**Author:** ![Yayoi\_Isayeki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yayoi_isayeki/32/275307_2.png) [@Yayoi\_Isayeki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yayoi_Isayeki)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/14 "2019-07-17T02:38:32Z")
Just post a fit pls, that’s what OP was asking for ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Norros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_norros/32/249084_2.png) [@ISD\_Norros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Norros)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-ship-that-is-not-a-gila/170740/15 "2019-07-17T11:56:46Z")
Closed at OP’s Request