# (Actually) Interesting Ideas for Ending the Amarr-Minmatar Conflict **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [November 28, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263 "2017-11-28T22:27:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![Tyrel\_Toov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyrel_toov/32/387953_2.png) [@Tyrel\_Toov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyrel_Toov)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1024 "2018-03-09T16:53:22Z")
> [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](#): > > Do we get marshmallows to toast too? I’m bringing ribs ---
**Author:** ![ValentinaDLM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valentinadlm/32/242301_2.png) [@ValentinaDLM](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ValentinaDLM)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1025 "2018-03-09T17:14:14Z")
It is sad, that there was really no point of agreement in this thread but… perhaps this comes from my background in the Mandate, but I don’t feel the total and absolute freeing of every slave of Minmatar heritage is ever going to happen, the Empire simply couldn’t handle it, the Republic simply couldn’t handle it, it would be a disaster on all sides. I for one though, would be content with a policy that if a slave wants to reject the Amarrian God, and institution of slavery then let them go. I doubt more than a quarter of the currently enslaved Minmatar would be willing to come to the Republic as refugees, into a culture they are connected to by blood but not culture. The ones I care about are the ones that are willing to reject the Amarrian culture, the ones who still have that fire of resistance burning within them, not the ones who want to come here as free people then try and spread the insidious faith of the Amarr to the Republic. We already have enough of those people to deal with in the Republic as is, and I was raised to believe in the Amarrian faith, I have seen just how strong it’s appeal can be, how it manipulates and twists those who believe and it terrifies me. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1026 "2018-03-09T17:31:56Z")
Ah, glad to see you here, Valentina. While your logic is often flawed, you do generally mean well and do not revel in the idea of full-scale conflict. I beg to differ with you on the point of the Empire reforming or abolishing slavery as it is now. I’ve explained why in a few places in this thread, if you care to go digging. I am glad that you at least see that immediate emancipation is unrealistic. I hope you might be able to add a reasonable voice to this dialogue, if you care to stay. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1027 "2018-03-09T17:34:11Z")
> [@Kumakatok](#): > > Director Arrendis, I make my due obeisance to your rank. Oh good grief. The proper form of address for (and level of respect due) my rank is ‘hey dumbass’. > [@Kumakatok](#): > > If I may, this allusion intrigues me. Do you imagine that the Minmatar will, at some point, grow in numbers sufficient to wield power on that basis across the cluster? This whole tangent was a response to > [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > In any case, a solution to the Minmatar Question is needed, as if we look at demographics, we see that the Minmatar are growing faster than any other group, with the logical result being that eventually the entire cluster will be a monoculture of Minmatar swarming over every planet of every star. I myself make no predictions when not snarking at an idiot. > [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#): > > Wow, you guys need to get a life. I gave up on avoiding Minmatar genocide at around post 778. Mostly I think we were going for 1000 posts. Now I’m curious if we can get to 2000 before Off-Topic does. > [@Morika\_Jins](#): > > No, heretics will stay heretics. We’re _heathens_. Please recall earlier statements to Aria. Heretics have to be committing Heresy, which can only be done by members of the faith who stray from Orthodoxy. @Aldrith_Shutaq what kind of nonsense are you people teaching your frothing larvae these days? ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1028 "2018-03-09T17:43:28Z")
The easy to remember stuff to keep them fighting hard. ---
**Author:** ![Aradina\_Varren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aradina_varren/32/398702_2.png) [@Aradina\_Varren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aradina_Varren)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1029 "2018-03-09T18:01:46Z")
Mostly hair care related things it seems. ---
**Author:** ![ValentinaDLM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valentinadlm/32/242301_2.png) [@ValentinaDLM](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ValentinaDLM)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1030 "2018-03-09T18:02:16Z")
You’re right Aldrith, I don’t revel in full scale conflict, but that doesn’t make me too popular around these parts. In fact, some have questioned my choices in the current conflict, after all I have actually in in fleet with Amarr milita alliance Ungentlemanly Warfare, to attempt to help defend their athanor, and repaired their tackle ships that were helping with the local pirate menace. I am not at all opposed to working with the Amarr Empire or those loyal to it for common purposes. In fact, I am just saying perhaps the Amarr could get rid of the slaves that resist, and I would even be willing to exchange those who practice your faith here in the Republic for them, then both nations would be even stronger. Of course, that is all theory none of it is up to me, and many would think me a bigot for my lack of religious tolerance. I merely want what is best for everyone, and a small exchange like that is the only thing that seems practical in the mid term. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1031 "2018-03-10T12:58:25Z")
I will never EVER give up my slaves. My fellow holders and I will NEVER recognize the rebel provinces as a legitamate republic. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1032 "2018-03-10T13:37:52Z")
I don’t like your hat. Prepare for war. ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1033 "2018-03-10T13:43:43Z")
Well that escalated quickly. I suppose with hats involved it was bound to come to a head at somepoint though. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1034 "2018-03-10T13:50:27Z")
Treacherous words coming from someone WHO FIGHTS FOR THE EMPIRE!..who kills minmatar… > **[Aldrith Shutaq | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/768582425/)** > > Aldrith Shutaq: 6,738 ships destroyed and 1,182 ships lost. ---
**Author:** ![ValentinaDLM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valentinadlm/32/242301_2.png) [@ValentinaDLM](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ValentinaDLM)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1035 "2018-03-10T13:51:23Z")
Also, The Amarr Empire already is party to many diplomatic agreements with the Republic, so the point for not recognizing it as a legal and legitimate nation has long since passed. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1036 "2018-03-10T16:51:40Z")
> [@Sebat\_Hadah](#): > > Treacherous words coming from someone WHO FIGHTS FOR THE EMPIRE!..who kills minmatar… … who was pretty much guaranteed to hate your hat … ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1037 "2018-03-10T16:58:25Z")
For your information I took this hat from a blood raider fanatic I killed with my bare hands. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1038 "2018-03-10T17:04:57Z")
Yeah, you said that, sir. I hopefully explained why it’ll still be trouble? (That is: Sani Sabik do that all the time, and wearing this particular trophy means flying their colors exactly as they would? Right down to the tale of daring and brutal prowess?) ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1039 "2018-03-10T17:27:33Z")
Just deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1040 "2018-03-10T17:29:20Z")
Maginally better. Prepare for less war. ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1041 "2018-03-10T17:42:26Z")
War-Lite, the war you can enjoy between meals without ruining your appetite. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1042 "2018-03-10T17:44:05Z")
> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#): > > wearing this particular trophy means flying their colors exactly as they would? Just like people were told to do during the coronation with the Purity nuts… ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1043 "2018-03-10T17:56:48Z")
That was different. You can lay claim to color schemes and logos, but not to an entire common primary color. We Reclaimed the color white from them for the good of all. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263.md?page=51) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263.md?page=53)