# (Actually) Interesting Ideas for Ending the Amarr-Minmatar Conflict **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [November 28, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263 "2017-11-28T22:27:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1104 "2018-03-15T13:45:54Z")
Remember though, as is Written: The penis, mightier than the sword. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1105 "2018-03-15T13:48:23Z")
As is also Written: Yer an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1106 "2018-03-15T14:07:00Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > I call dibs on Deitra Vess and that Corraidhin Farsaidh chap. I’ll pass, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1107 "2018-03-15T14:18:15Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > I call dibs on Deitra Vess and that Corraidhin Farsaidh chap. If I can do anything to bring peace between these two factions I’m more than happy to apply myself to the task in hand. I’ll also bring cake and absynthe, just to make sure. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1108 "2018-03-15T14:39:32Z")
Pfft, more like bring sooth sayer… ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1109 "2018-03-15T14:53:37Z")
Are you saying drugs are necessary to enjoy my company ? That hurt, Dietra. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1110 "2018-03-15T15:02:00Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > Intermarriage and all that. Disgusting! What kind of offspring do you think that would yield? Weak people. Half people. > [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > Or one of both. I’m not judgemental that way. This is biologically impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1111 "2018-03-15T15:03:09Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > Are you saying drugs are necessary to enjoy my company ? > > That hurt, Dietra. ☹ I’m more than happy to join you both without any unnecessary stimulants, just to make sure they aren’t required. All in the interests of furthering the peace process of course. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1112 "2018-03-15T16:04:12Z")
Its not your company I’d be mentally escaping from… ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1113 "2018-03-15T16:28:59Z")
> [@Deitra\_Vess](#): > > From what I recall from my time working with an agent from the Sebiestor tribe out of Eram, The “slavers” he speaks of had transponders broadcasting that they were imperial ships, their crews carried imperial rank ensignias. I would like to say maybe a false flag attack but they are a little too numerous to say the Empire wouldn’t notice litterally billions of counterfit imperial id tags and misidentified ships and done nothing over the past decades. > > To put it simply, the likelyhood of those “slavers” not being Amarrian in origin is about as likely as the Gallante POW camps being falseflag operations by the Serpantis. Its not really theoretically possible at the levels we’ve seen. The empire, the Gallante, ect would HAVE to notice and make changes to their operations, if they valued what they’ve agreed to with concord. It would be a PR nightmare if they made no action and it wasn’t them, possibly worse than actually committing the crimes. I cannot really confirm nor deny Imperial Navy operations in Minmatar space. In fact, I am pretty sure they do take place now considering the state of war. Still, my point was about Angel Cartel who are infamous by their illegal slavery operations. About illegality of Imperial operations? Well, again, I cannot say a lot about this, as I have little knowledge about their modus operandi. I already told what I knew - that they enslave only prisoners of war and criminals. And, considering the Republic with the Empire now at war… well, yes, they can draw prisoners even from raids deep into Republic territory. In fact, you may even call me a slaver by these principles. Or, more like, ex-slaver. Since I myself was doing raids into Minmatar high security space when I was serving the Empire, and if I was taking any prisoners (usually when my crew was looting the wrecks), they were transferred as POWs to either Ministry of Internal Order or 24th Crusade representatives. I believe these prisoners were enslaved. > [@Arrendis](#): > > Civilians. Non-combatants. Children. Whomever flies in a ship with TLF or Republic Navy markings is a combatant, unless they are held in there as captives against their will. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1114 "2018-03-15T16:46:16Z")
Via the context I wouldn’t necessarially consider that being a slaver. Some of the raids I intercepted at the time were clearly attacks on civilians . Civilian transports attacked, women and children in chains. Say what you will about us but a mother with child is not a soldier or a freedom fighter or a terrorist in our eyes. We. Don’t. Arm. Children. For our military. Mistake on their part? It happens a little too frequently from what I can tell. Make no mistake, our hands aren’t clean but neither are theirs. ---
**Author:** ![Helt\_Anajkt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/helt_anajkt/32/22974_2.png) [@Helt\_Anajkt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Helt_Anajkt)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1115 "2018-03-15T17:15:47Z")
yea … everybody follow replying … +1110 replyis and up ( and go up… ) ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1116 "2018-03-15T17:16:25Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Whomever flies in a ship with TLF or Republic Navy markings is a combatant, unless they are held in there as captives against their will. Except we’re not talking about TLF or Republic Fleet ships. We’re talking about independent transports. We’re talking about colonies. We’re talking, again, about _civilians_. And no, outside the warzone, _in Republic space_, Republic Fleet and RSS ships are _not_ valid targets for the Imperial Navy. If they were, that would mean the idea that the ‘wars’ are limited is an utter farce, and the Gallente should go ahead and attack Perimeter, because there are Caldari Navy vessels there. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1117 "2018-03-15T17:17:24Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Except we’re not talking about TLF or Republic Fleet ships. We’re talking about independent transports. That’s just piracy. > [@Arrendis](#): > > Gallente should go ahead and attack Perimeter, because there are Caldari Navy vessels there. Yes, they definitely should. After they lose all their ships in Perimeter, we will destroy them with ease. ---
**Author:** ![Helt\_Anajkt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/helt_anajkt/32/22974_2.png) [@Helt\_Anajkt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Helt_Anajkt)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1118 "2018-03-15T17:19:48Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Wait. Wait. I’ve got it. I know the solution. LOL (like RE- Lol) … in caldary born-tubes they do “a good job” making very weak/half/unmind people … and congratulations for this. > [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Intermarriage and all that. a long of history says this result no good… ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1119 "2018-03-15T17:20:21Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > That’s just piracy. Congratulations, you’ve just called the Amarr Empire pirates. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1120 "2018-03-15T17:21:49Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Congratulations, you’ve just called the Amarr Empire pirates. > [@Arrendis](#): > > As is also Written: > > Yer an idiot. Arr en diot. ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1121 "2018-03-15T17:22:47Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Congratulations, you’ve just called the Amarr Empire pirates. Why does Dian think the Amarr are pirates? Why, because the ARRRRRR! of course… ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1122 "2018-03-15T17:22:52Z")
I’ve described the acts they engage in. You’ve said those acts are piracy. If they engage in piracy, does that not make them pirates? ---
**Author:** ![Helt\_Anajkt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/helt_anajkt/32/22974_2.png) [@Helt\_Anajkt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Helt_Anajkt)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1123 "2018-03-15T17:24:10Z")
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