# (Actually) Interesting Ideas for Ending the Amarr-Minmatar Conflict

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [November 28, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263 "2017-11-28T22:27:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1405 "2018-04-17T21:38:24Z")

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Firing upon state personel/assets?  
Dissimination of information to hostile entities?  
attempts to disrupt operations?

He will be spoken to, but not over possible treasonous intent.

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**Author:** ![Tyrel\_Toov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyrel_toov/32/387953_2.png) [@Tyrel\_Toov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyrel_Toov)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1406 "2018-04-17T21:39:51Z")

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Last I checked, voicing my opinion on a public forum was not a violation of any laws or treaties. You are just going to have to deal with it, sweetheart.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1407 "2018-04-17T21:43:29Z")

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> [@Deitra\_Vess](#):
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> Firing upon state personel/assets?
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> Dissimination of information to hostile entities?
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> attempts to disrupt operations?
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> He will be spoken to, but not over possible treasonous intent.

I have no information about these claims, Ms. Vess. If you need necessary to check into them, it’s up to you. For me, it’s more than enough what I have listed to consider the hostility and deal with the entity as definitely hostile. And hostility from within is considered treason. That’s all.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1408 "2018-04-17T21:45:17Z")

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> [@Tyrel\_Toov](#):
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> You are just going to have to deal with it, sweetheart.

Don’t worry, I will deal with it accordingly. If you have any ideas of trying to slip out of it without consequences, you are deeply mistaken. 👮‍♀️

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1409 "2018-04-17T21:45:37Z")

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If he did such things it would either be in one of my fleets or around me…

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1410 "2018-04-17T21:48:13Z")

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> [@Deitra\_Vess](#):
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> If he did such things it would either be in one of my fleets or around me…

I repeat, I have no information about that, Ms. Vess and I cannot blame him in what I don’t know, and I won’t bring any such accusations until I myself would have evidences to present against him. I blame him only in what I can back up by facts - which are all right here for everyone to see.

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**Author:** ![Rafal\_Vausienne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rafal_vausienne/32/64411_2.png) [@Rafal\_Vausienne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rafal_Vausienne)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1411 "2018-04-17T21:50:21Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> Basically, what you are saying is that Fed law takes precedence because Fed law says it should do so, and if that is not arrogance, what is?

I am saying Federal law takes precedence within the borders of the Federation. That is not arrogance, that is sovereignty. Just as the destruction of the Republic fleet at Colelie was undertaken not for any emotive rationale but defending Federal sovereignty borders against an armed invasion by a foreign power.

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1412 "2018-04-17T21:51:42Z")

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Fair enough.

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**Author:** ![Tyrel\_Toov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyrel_toov/32/387953_2.png) [@Tyrel\_Toov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyrel_Toov)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1413 "2018-04-17T21:52:55Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> And hostility from within is considered treason.

By you. And I don’t fly under you, so you can make an aeronautical seduction of a perforated pastry.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1414 "2018-04-17T22:01:37Z")

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> [@Tyrel\_Toov](#):
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> so you can make an aeronautical seduction of a perforated pastry.

I see you again don’t realize whom are you speaking with. What you said is definitely not among my professional duties. My primary duties are:

1. Following FC orders
2. Seeking and physically eliminating any threat to Caldari State or our pilots, would they show hostility by _ **word** _ or action.

Have a nice day.

And I am sorry for the derailing, but I can’t leave any false words about me left unnoticed.

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**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1415 "2018-04-18T00:31:28Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> I see you again don’t realize whom are you speaking with.

DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM??!  
  
  
Take it to a mailing list, the lot of you, _please_.

On that subject, surely the Federation and the State can have their _own_ thousand-and-a-half post thread to bicker in? This one’s ours, you’re being very rude.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1416 "2018-04-18T00:31:51Z")

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> [@Kalaratiri](#):
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> DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM??!

Matterall, is that you?

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**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1417 "2018-04-18T00:32:12Z")

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I didn’t say it.

I was thinking it, but I didn’t say it.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1418 "2018-04-18T00:41:32Z")

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You know, not only do I know him… but I work with the Mittani.

That, and like 50 billion ISK will get me an Avatar in 1dq, too. Actually, they might charge me more for knowing Matterall…

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**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1419 "2018-04-18T02:32:53Z")

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Hmm… I wonder if the Admiralty will have to come up with some kind of plaque for Captain Shutaq commemorating the longevity of this thread to award him at the PIE 15 year gala.

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**Author:** ![Claudia\_Osyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claudia_osyn/32/387939_2.png) [@Claudia\_Osyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claudia_Osyn)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1420 "2018-04-18T03:34:32Z")

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This topic has my blessing, please continue.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1421 "2018-04-18T04:16:32Z")

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Wait… after all the hard work I’ve put into keeping this thing going and pushing it toward 2k, you’re gonna suggest _ **HE** _ get a plaque?

Damn, dat’s _cold_, Mitty.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1422 "2018-04-18T05:12:43Z")

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> [@Rafal\_Vausienne](#):
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> I am saying Federal law takes precedence within the borders of the Federation. That is not arrogance, that is sovereignty.

That is a _Fed_ definition of sovereignty, which completely ignores tribe and blood.

And that you cannot even see there could be other definitions that apply, _that_ is arrogance.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1423 "2018-04-18T05:24:21Z")

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In more detail here: [The events in Colelie, and why do the Feds sometimes seem patronizing](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-events-in-colelie-and-why-do-the-feds-sometimes-seem-patronizing/70424)

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**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/actually-interesting-ideas-for-ending-the-amarr-minmatar-conflict/42263/1424 "2018-04-20T03:01:36Z")

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I would offer you a place among my staff, but I doubt you’d accept the stipulations.

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