# After 14 years of ship destruction being in the game **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 29, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356 "2017-11-29T13:21:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/41 "2017-12-01T21:37:52Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > a milk-spilling game That you choose to believe EVE Online is a milk spilling game is your prerogative. What others ultimately choose to believe EVE Online is about is NOT YOUR PREROGATIVE. ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/42 "2017-12-01T21:51:57Z")
> [@Keno\_Skir](#): > > your butt-hurt Butthurt! Butts . . hurting . . . everywhere . . . always! Or, maybe you just need your eyes checked (or your head). > [@Keno\_Skir](#): > > you actually shouldn’t cry over unimportant things. Shouldn’t cry over them, shouldn’t fight over them, and generally shouldn’t expend more effor over them than they are worth, however: What you choose to believe is your prerogative. Other people’s choices of what to value and how are NOT YOUR PREROGATIVE. Is this sinking in, yet? You’re not persuading people to play EVE your way. You are commanding them to. Stop. (\<- That’s a command. How do you like it?) ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/43 "2017-12-01T22:00:59Z")
No one chooses anything. Neither free will, nor individuality are valid arguments, and your totalitarian way of thinking will never get past anyone around here. Any and all argumentation against “self responsibility” will go nowhere. No matter what you say or do, the path forward leads to more self responsibility. A vigilant population, aware of the fact that there are others who might shoot them, even if it’s just NPCs who will shoot them. They will accept suicide ganking, and will try it as well, because “why the hell not”. A population, growing into fleets and communities, into friendship and combat. Vigilantism and self defense. It’s exactly the opposite of what people like you want, and i’m really happy that griefers like you have nothing left but crying on the forums. You shall not pass. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/44 "2017-12-01T22:47:54Z")
I complain about your shite all the time, doesnt seem to make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/45 "2017-12-01T23:10:42Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > Shouldn’t cry over them, shouldn’t fight over them, and generally shouldn’t expend more effor over them than they are worth, however: What you choose to believe is your prerogative. Other people’s choices of what to value and how are NOT YOUR PREROGATIVE. > > Is this sinking in, yet? > > You’re not persuading people to play EVE your way. You are commanding them to I’m not commanding you to do anything dude. I literally just said your butt-hurt with Dom was funny. You said something about perogatives and a bunch of stuff about feelings or something. Really I think the lesson to take from this is that if you get butt-hurt about small things like video game losses you need to have a good long look in the mirror and sort your priorities out. I think we can all agree on that can’t we? Good. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/49 "2017-12-02T00:04:55Z")
For we’re living In a safety zone Don’t be holding back from me We’re living from hour to hour down here And we’ll take it when we can It’s a kind of living which recognises The death of the odourless man When nothing is vanity nothing’s too slow It’s not Eden but it’s no sham [Chorus] There is no hell There is no shame There is no hell Like an old hell There is no hell And it’s lights up, boys Lights up boys [Bridge] Explosion falls upon deaf ears While we’re swimming in a sea of sham Living in the shadow of vanity A complex fashion for a simple man [Chorus] And there is no hell And there is no shame And there is no hell Like an old hell There is no hell [Verse 2] And the silence flies On its brief flight A razor sharp crap shoot affair And we light up our lives And there’s no more of me exploding you Re-exposing you Like everybody do Re-exploding you I don’t know what to use Make somebody move Me exploding Me exploding you ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/50 "2017-12-02T03:23:17Z")
guys, stay on topic ty ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/51 "2017-12-02T04:31:11Z")
If you look at any competitive game’s message boards, you will undoubtedly find reams of threads made by players calling for nerfs (or buffs to their preferred playstyles). Some of it is justified, but the vast majority of it is not; what really matters is if the devs actually cave-in to them or not. Thankfully, CCP seem to have this particular crowd under control. ---
**Author:** ![Rosov\_Aulmais](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosov_aulmais/32/168511_2.png) [@Rosov\_Aulmais](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosov_Aulmais)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/52 "2017-12-02T08:23:41Z")
Like other behaviour such as complaining, they can exist as long as there are never any serious negative consequences for doing so. ---
**Author:** ![Rosov\_Aulmais](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosov_aulmais/32/168511_2.png) [@Rosov\_Aulmais](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosov_Aulmais)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/53 "2017-12-02T08:25:37Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/b/abbf67ece9094aeb6536ba6a1dda9aa923448147.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Prt\_Scr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prt_scr/32/29012_2.png) [@Prt\_Scr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prt_Scr)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/54 "2017-12-02T10:57:09Z")
Players ask for nerfs because they are special snowflakes ---
**Author:** ![Patti\_Potato\_Patrouette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/patti_potato_patrouette/32/18901_2.png) [@Patti\_Potato\_Patrouette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Patti_Potato_Patrouette)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/55 "2017-12-06T10:21:15Z")
You don’t understand the language you speak I know you are not a troll I checked So you must be confused or something. Can I help? Patti x ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/56 "2017-12-06T11:28:19Z")
Is this post intended to bring my attention to the editing someone did on my last post? Those were three separate citations intended to demonstrate the respondent’s fixation with the idea that I must be experiencing some sort of grief. His premise is that I’m “butt hurt” about something his friend said and that it is motivating my response. He’s wrong. Anything else? ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/57 "2017-12-06T13:17:59Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > His premise is that I’m “butt hurt” about something his friend said and that it is motivating my response. > > He’s wrong. Literally I made a passing observation about how emotional you were being and you’ve spent days trying to convince me you weren’t being emotional at all, all the while telling me in capital letters what is and is not “MY PREROGATIVE”. If you could calm your butt, it wouldn’t hurt so much. > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > I’d think that after 14 years, you would have figured this out without having to ask in GD. I guess some people just have a hard time figuring things out. ^ That is how you ended your first post in this thread. Don’t be upset when you act butt-hurt and get called out on it. The texture of your posts suggests to me you have a barely hidden agenda, an axe to grind if you will, against involuntary PvP. If someone experiences emotional trauma from playing a game they need to sort themselves out. End of story. It’s not about prerogatives. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/58 "2017-12-06T13:30:28Z")
> [@Keno\_Skir](#): > > involuntary PvP Best pvp imo One doesn’t simply join EVE expecting a peaceful experience lol ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/66 "2017-12-06T16:55:50Z")
@ISD_Stall could you do a little cleanup? I love my threads like I love my counter-top… clean and shiny 😛 Seriously guys if you want to go punch each other, do it ingame Tia ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Stall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_stall/32/12239_2.png) [@ISD\_Stall](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Stall)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/67 "2017-12-06T17:21:29Z")
I’ll have a look when I get to my pc. ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/68 "2017-12-06T17:56:00Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > if you want to go punch each other Quote where I said that. And it ain’t like I’m hiding. But how do you think it would turn out if I tried to destroy the ship of ISD Stall’s buddies? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/69 "2017-12-06T17:57:27Z")
Who cares, post on topic or don’t post at all ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356/70 "2017-12-06T18:09:14Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > post on topic 14 years in and you still don’t know how GD works? Well, maybe it works different for snowflakes like you than it does for the rest of us. Who knows? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/after-14-years-of-ship-destruction-being-in-the-game/42356.md?page=4)