# Age of Chaos, Removal of High sec Ganking

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [December 12, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003 "2019-12-12T06:06:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/1 "2019-12-12T06:06:04Z")

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@CCP_Hellmar  
@CCP_Rise

This needs to be tried for 3-6 months. You need to take this step ccp, to recoup the player base. Take this step for me and validate my positions (this will be evidence for you that my positions will help you heal the lost population, and restore the game to its former glory). If it does not work out in a few months, or half a year, you can reverse it.

You have a 10 month life expectancy left on eve. Make the change, and lets heal the game.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/2 "2019-12-12T06:07:30Z")

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Get lost newbie scammer.  
Your ideas are all about what will benefit you the most, nothing to do with the player base.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/3 "2019-12-12T07:10:05Z")

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Lmao, oh boy, look who it is again.

Remember this: [Reddit - Dive into anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/bj6eqd/vote_naari_naarian_for_csm_14/)

> Hello I am Naari Naarian and I am running for CSM 14. I have been playing since 2003 and have countless hours played on this game. I have FCed for many well known alliances such as BoB and other major alliances. I have won countless battles as well in my EVE career.
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> Why vote for me?
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> I stand firm that we need to keep our new player base and that with 80% of EVE being PVE base we need to conform to their needs. I will advocate for the firing of Hilmar an bring in a better CEO for CCP. I believe he is the reason EVE is a total ■■■■ show today. I will also make PVP without consent a thing of the pass and eliminate highsec wardecs.
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> I have countless hours of being a developer and see the abuse that players who inject new characters have done to this game. I will also remove capitals from the game as they are extremely unbalanced and need to be reworked. As well as make a ship class that is inbetween Battleships and Carriers to help balance the current meta.

For all the lies about the “countless hours being a developer” and FCing for “many well known alliances such as BoB and other major alliances” (even though no one knows who you are and reject that you were ever part of those alliances), at least it’s good to know that there’s one thing you won’t lie about.

It’s being a coward. Look at all of these threads crying about ganking, wardecs, and other general pvp in highsec. For someone who used to FC a “major” alliances in nullsec, you seem to be very occupied with a natural part of the game.

> [@Concord Changes](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-changes/144812):
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> A change to concord response times. Increase the response times in high security space entering into ships while in space and not tethered by a super capital, or station is no longer possible. Low Security Guns will now 100% True damage, ignoring player resistence Guns will now scale in damage up to 500% of current rank in 0.4 systems, dropping down to 300% of current rates in 0.1 systems. (making it hard to tank and camp) Concord will now respond to low sec distress calls, that will spaw…

> [@War Declaration Changes for Pirate/Criminal Entities](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-declaration-changes-for-pirate-criminal-entities/152491):
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> Another way at fixing high sec criminal activities are as follows Criminal activities now significantly reduce the alliance, and corporations standings with high sec empire entities. As they progressively reduce, war declarations become even more expensive, increasing the payment rate even more. Eventually, the corporations and alliances will be blocked from docking rights by empires outright, and all members part of the organization will be aggressed, regardless of individual standing with sa…

> [@Criminal Standing changes](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-standing-changes/152484):
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> Curious to know what you guys think of this approach Reducing the required standings from -5.0 to -2.5 to be actively engaged by concord as criminals. Engaging high sec capitals (frieghter, orca) will reduce standing by 1 with all empire factions (concord, gallente, amarr, minmatar) At -5.0 Pods docking rights are removed from players in high sec entities At -7.5 concord will engage pods The idea behind this is that limited criminal activity is possible, but will more quickly remove people fr…

> [@Why eve's population is low, and its major problems that should be focused on](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-eves-population-is-low-and-its-major-problems-that-should-be-focused-on/143622):
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> @CCP_Falcon I know you are busy making a game but please take time to consider the following Alright, this post is going to be a bit aggressive toward you ccp guys, but if you read it, and consider it i would have imparted upon you 17 years of experience in game design and heavy research. these are going to be very hard positions for you to budget on, because i know how stuck we designers can get in a games creative direction. please consider these with serious thought and consideration Playe…

> [@Things that would absolutely shift the dynamic (shake up eve)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/things-that-would-absolutely-shift-the-dynamic-shake-up-eve/182996):
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> Removal of high sec suicide ganking shifting all this into the war system would be interesting Shifting all the local’s into blackout mode this would absolutely change the way in which war targets hunt each other please note, i never supported blackout mode like wormhole space. i always believed it should be on a 5-10 minute timer. I despise the wormhole local mechanics. Reworking the building mechanics, so that low sec favors super cap production possibly done by allowing the dro…

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**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/4 "2019-12-12T07:12:23Z")

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@ISD_Buldath Can you do clean up of the off topic posts, and deal with the constant spam of nonsense?

Cheers.

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**Author:** ![Nepsy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nepsy/32/302840_2.png) [@Nepsy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nepsy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/5 "2019-12-12T07:27:47Z")

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@ISD_Buldath can you close this post? OP is obviously trolling and spamming, he’s made like 10 previous posts on removing HS ganks

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/6 "2019-12-12T11:58:28Z")

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Oh look, another thread where we may let everybody know what a crappy person this player is…

Funny how you seem to believe anyone gives a rat’s ass what your suggestions to “improve” the game are, without even realising the very title of this silly thread is an oxymoron… 🤣

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**Author:** ![NewEdenPsyco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/newedenpsyco/32/174058_2.png) [@NewEdenPsyco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NewEdenPsyco)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/7 "2019-12-12T12:30:25Z")

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But but but he said that it was his ideas and it was because of him that CCP implemented the other stuff.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/8 "2019-12-12T13:00:38Z")

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Did he? In some other thread I guess? Damn, I seem to have missed some of the fun…

I only remember he claiming he’s a game designer that knows better than CCP, but he prefers to play EvE instead of the games he designs himself nonetheless…

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**Author:** ![Rhayn\_Rowe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhayn_rowe/32/405925_2.png) [@Rhayn\_Rowe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhayn_Rowe)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/9 "2019-12-12T13:13:11Z")

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Spectacular post- would vote for CSM/10. /s

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**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/10 "2019-12-12T13:59:40Z")

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Does this guy not get it? No one, especially CCP takes these forums seriuosly.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/11 "2019-12-12T17:54:15Z")

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Oh look, another whine thread from the liar and fraud. Highsec ganking is already effectively impossible against smart players, only stupid and/or greedy players are losing ships to it. Stop being terrible at EVE instead of demanding even more nerfs to PvP.

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**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/12 "2019-12-12T22:10:27Z")

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How, exactly, do you intend to “turn off high sec ganking” without changing the mechanics into something unrecognizable to the EVE populace?

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/13 "2019-12-12T23:19:41Z")

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For any NEW player, THIS thread is a must read as it describes who Naari Naarian is…a total scammer. Stay as far away as possible.

> [@How to get more people to play eve](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/1260):
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> For some reason I’ve avoided this thread until now. I don’t know why, but most likely because the title of the thread to me, poses the wrong question/challenge. Here’s my TL;DR: TL;DR: It isn’t our role to get more people to play EVE. That’s CCP’s. But as a community, we can do a lot to help keep people once they find the game. Longer response: It’s CCP’s role to bring people to the game. It’s in their best interest to do so and they have marketing professionals to help with that. However o…

He runs what is called a **confidence scam**. He uses these forums to show potential new recruits that he’s fighting for the little guy and to also make boasts. After the new player is impressed, they join and eventually the “requests” for ISK start to come as documented in the link. **Don’t fall for it.**

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/14 "2019-12-13T08:02:37Z")

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I’m so ■■■■■■■ proud of you guys right now. \<3

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**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/15 "2019-12-19T07:14:11Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> Did he? In some other thread I guess? Damn, I seem to have missed some of the fun…

I did say that a few times actually.

> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> I only remember he claiming he’s a game designer that knows better than CCP, but he prefers to play EvE instead of the games he designs himself nonetheless…

My game is still in development, my friend. Coming soon TM

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**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/16 "2019-12-19T07:15:25Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> For any NEW player, THIS thread is a must read as it describes who Naari Naarian is…a total scammer. Stay as far away as possible.

I recommend you guys read it, all of it. because you will see that people like runa here are the real scammers, trying to get me to quit eve because im trying to break the way they play it.

They are the ones that are abusing people, and being douchebags. **Read it, and see the proof that what they claim is lies.**

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/17 "2019-12-19T12:42:40Z")

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> [@Naari\_Naarian](#):
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> trying to get me to quit eve

Actually I could care less what you do. It’s new players that I’m warning…BTW, you break wind, that’s about it.

Yes new player, please do read it is as the he suggests…he’s garbage.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/19 "2019-12-19T22:10:18Z")

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Oh so now I’m a Goon…lol…

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/20 "2019-12-19T23:31:20Z")

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I’d like to remind what type of player OP is:  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/9/498891529d96f49a6bccdc33e100e05a89cb9fcf.png)  
and this piece by his alt:  
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/9/596714b5ecece6ff13dcdc06d3d8bdf45229b877.png) ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/9/596714b5ecece6ff13dcdc06d3d8bdf45229b877.png)

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**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-chaos-removal-of-high-sec-ganking/206003/21 "2019-12-20T02:28:13Z")

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> [@Ms\_Steak](#):
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> I’d like to remind what type of player OP is:

I confirm these messages, and i still stand by them. Taking eve in a different direction is its only hope for a future. Further more, the shift to even more complex aspects has done nothing but removed the already limited pve-casual population from the game, all so you can force what remains of them to do your form of content, so they can resist playing the game and paying fr it in any health manner.

You had nearly two decades to prove your complex, oriented form of game play is good, and like every complex game showed us just how unsuccessful it really is.

Mean while farmville and fornite are racking in players and dough.

Thanks for again providing examples of your own stupidity.

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