# AGE OF CONSENT **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 29, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636 "2020-03-29T20:46:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Yarda\_Black](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yarda_black/32/373282_2.png) [@Yarda\_Black](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yarda_Black)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/101 "2020-03-30T08:28:24Z")
I got robbed, blown up, scammed and lured into nullsec flying a mining Osprey within 1 week of playing. Learned a lot that week šŸ˜‰ People will be fine imo ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/102 "2020-03-30T08:29:26Z")
Would you have fared better with an extra week or two of ā€œghostā€ time to figure out how the game worked without being disrupted? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/103 "2020-03-30T08:29:42Z")
Your question is ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  up and potentially trying to put words into my ā€¦ fingers. 1. People donā€™t need to be protected from most things. 2. Less rules = better. There are too many legal and social rules regarding human behaviour and freedom of expression in general, which lead to the situation weā€™re living in nowadays. At least one whole generation of thinly skinned princesses lacking self-responsibility. If you know 1984, then you know that thatā€™s a great base for a totalitarian regime just waiting to offer protection and safety to all these people. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/104 "2020-03-30T08:30:13Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > without being disrupted? She wasnā€™t being disrupted. Stop imagining words and meanings into peopleā€™s ā€¦ fingers. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/105 "2020-03-30T08:30:32Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > Would you have fared better Define ā€œfaring betterā€. Are you concerned with ISK or enjoyment? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/106 "2020-03-30T08:32:01Z")
Guys, heā€™s trying to lead the conversation by adding things that fit his narrative. > [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > Define ā€œfaring betterā€. Are you concerned with ISK or enjoyment? You, for example, fell for it. Heā€™s _implying_ that what happened to Yarda was a _disruption_, which was not the case as far as anyone knows ā€¦ not counting her, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/107 "2020-03-30T08:33:49Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > Define ā€œfaring betterā€. Are you concerned with ISK or enjoyment? Why not both? ? Or, how about this one: would he/she have learned more or more quickly with an extra week or two? > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > heā€™s trying to lead the conversation by adding things that fit his narrative. Where am I leading? I think I made my position pretty clear in the OP. And, if I am ā€œleadingā€, then what are YOU doing? Where are YOU leading? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/108 "2020-03-30T08:35:43Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > Where am I leading? I think I made my position pretty clear in the OP. And, if I am ā€œleadingā€, then what are YOU doing? Where are YOU leading? > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Heā€™s _implying_ that what happened to Yarda was a _disruption_ , > which was not the case as far as anyone knows ā€¦ not counting her, of course. Not emptyquoting. ---
**Author:** ![Yarda\_Black](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yarda_black/32/373282_2.png) [@Yarda\_Black](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yarda_Black)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/109 "2020-03-30T08:35:54Z")
For me that was part of the reason I kept playing. The first container I dumped for mining was scooped up within 20 minutes by random Badger. That dude actually send a message with a thank you for my ā€œdonationā€. I was like; What just happened? and ā€œYou can do that?ā€ I just laughed. Hard šŸ™‚ So I learned about anchoring, sec-systems and jetcan mining. ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/110 "2020-03-30T08:54:00Z")
What happened to Yarda Black was a disruption. Yarda Blackā€™s reaction to that disruption doesnā€™t make it not a disruption. Someone disrupted his/her mining operation and probably a few other things. So, push the events of that new player experience forward 2 weeks when the player knows more and has more material resilience and tell me: is the game better or worse? How? ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/111 "2020-03-30T08:55:17Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > Why not both? Because Iā€™m sure answers would be different. > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > would he/she have learned more or more quickly with an extra week or two? No, of course. Unless you are defining learning in terms of SP. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/112 "2020-03-30T09:00:05Z")
I would say that @Yarda_Black learnt more from the experience of having their can jacked than they would have if it hadnā€™t happened. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/113 "2020-03-30T09:04:06Z")
Pain is the greatest teacher. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/114 "2020-03-30T09:06:28Z")
ā€œLife is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.ā€ ~ Westley ---
**Author:** ![Elle\_Mendez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elle_mendez/32/297262_2.png) [@Elle\_Mendez](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elle_Mendez)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/115 "2020-03-30T09:45:05Z")
What would stop me from creating an ALT and using this period of immunity for other uses? There are many reasonable protections already in place including a criminal consent flag on your console. Teaching new players a false sense of security and that the game will ā€˜look afterā€™ them undermines the very thing that makes this a unique and amazing experience. Be whomever you want to be - how many times are we promised that and very few times it is delivered. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/116 "2020-03-30T09:51:32Z")
Just wondering, what is the ratio of ship loss due to triglavian scouts vs. ship loss due to non-consensual pvp in hisec for characters younger than 31 days ? Any real reason why anyone feels one is ā€œacceptableā€ and the other is not ? @DeMichael_Crimson thanks for reposting the eula, made me read it again, saw the new list. If there ever was a dev post about this on these forums, I never saw itā€¦ Gotta love this constant stream of threads about how bad pvp is for ā€œthe gameā€ and ā€œthe New Playersā€, otherwise you start to develop a rash with every new one. šŸ”“ šŸ”“ šŸ”“ ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/117 "2020-03-30T10:21:48Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Yeah I donā€™t think anybody here knows exactly how their system works. However I did look at other support articles which all have different time stamps. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Yes of course, because itā€™s an automatically generated timestamp. They are all updated regularly by the backend. > [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > Specifically for ā€œRookie Griefingā€ article, here is the 9-months-old version: > > > [Rookie Griefing ā€“ EVE Online](https://web.archive.org/web/20190601080918/https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203209712-Rookie-Griefing) > > It is the same. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Well, the list of systems is still the same, just some of the text was changed in the article which is why the time stamp has been updated. > [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > Yeah, ā€œa numberā€ was changed to ā€œseveralā€. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > Those time stamps are only updated when anything in the article is changed. > > No they arenā€™t. Databases timestamp at other times too. Proof of what you claim? I already showed that the time stamp was updated due to a change in the text of the article. How about you show proof of what you claim. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/119 "2020-03-30T10:29:30Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Where are you getting this from? The details of some of the information theyā€™ve posted are above, and no itā€™s not just one set of stats from CCP RIse. I didnā€™t even post that one in the info posted above. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/121 "2020-03-30T10:34:55Z")
Up in the thread. I posted them there several hours ago. They are still there. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636/123 "2020-03-30T10:49:07Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > But what you posted was a picture of a slide from Rise, the presentation he put the slide in and a comment from Rise. So yes, youā€™re still basing it all on one single set of stats. If you canā€™t look at the other information I posted (eg. the presentation from CCP Quant and his direct quote, or the other post in the forum fro Rise explaining that theyā€™ve tried and tried and failed to show there is a problem (paraphrasing)), then thereā€™s really nothing else. Not just one thing from Rise, but knock yourself out with whatever crusade you want to head down. I donā€™t have any interest in it. I know CCPā€™s views donā€™t sit comfortable with people that want to demonise pvp, but such is life. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/age-of-consent/228636.md?page=7)