# Air Career SP farming discontinued at last **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** patchnotes\ **Created:** [March 26, 2025, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169 "2025-03-26T11:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/1 "2025-03-26T11:27:00Z")
![rip-air-sp-farming-finaly-v0-j0euqa3vn0re1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/9/b/a9bb4c73a69646f789f5a1fb2e5533c3ebaa5035.webp) šŸ˜Š ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/2 "2025-03-26T11:45:20Z")
Better late than never, I guess. Itā€™s not like it hasnā€™t been an obvious exploit for a couple years now. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/3 "2025-03-26T12:48:31Z")
Why was it changed? ---
**Author:** ![Skjer\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skjer_artrald/32/462498_2.png) [@Skjer\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skjer_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/5 "2025-03-26T13:18:15Z")
instead of fixing bug X that has been around for agesā€¦ohhh nooooo, ccp has to insist on killing my playstyle instead ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/6 "2025-03-26T13:50:29Z")
Finally! Now also kill skill farming Alphas please: Inrease the minimum SP value to at least 6 or 7 million SP from 5. People can make hundreds of free Alphas, train them to 5M SP for free, wait for one of those times CCP hands out free Omega days, redeem their 1M SP reference bonus and extract down to 5M SP. Increasing the minimum SP for extraction to be higher than the Alpha limit + reference SP is an simple way to stop that. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/7 "2025-03-26T13:51:46Z")
Because people were abusing the air missions which were intended for newbies to farm SP. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/8 "2025-03-26T13:59:08Z")
How is it better if its only for newbies? ---
**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/9 "2025-03-26T14:01:20Z")
Finally. Indeed ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/10 "2025-03-26T14:04:47Z")
Its even a nerf to new people. Makes it even harder to catch up ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/11 "2025-03-26T14:09:24Z")
It doesnā€™t nerf new people, Bakster, unless these new players were farmimg SP in unintended ways. The regular AIR rewards for completing tasks have been unchanged and new players can get just as many as they used to. The only difference is that the rewards are character-bound now, so you can no longer send all SP to one character while you biomass your other character to do it all again multiple times a day. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/12 "2025-03-26T14:11:28Z")
Its a nerf to everyone ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/13 "2025-03-26T14:14:57Z")
Take note of who is happy when everyone gets nerfed? Its kind of creepy ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/15 "2025-03-26T14:33:17Z")
I like it when exploits like these are nerfed, because it improves the state of the game we all like to play. Are you one of those people who think nerfs are always bad? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/16 "2025-03-26T14:39:57Z")
This is a **great nerf**. ![Dzo5OI](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/c/d/4cd41afe7db6cd15e00f836ae15974a85580239e.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/17 "2025-03-26T15:46:54Z")
How? Tell me ---
**Author:** ![Skjer\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skjer_artrald/32/462498_2.png) [@Skjer\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skjer_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/18 "2025-03-26T17:15:16Z")
skilled players can farm comparable SP with less mind numbing and no biomass timer cap ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/19 "2025-03-26T18:36:07Z")
Found the farmerā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Ulitharid\_Alhoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulitharid_alhoon/32/387855_2.png) [@Ulitharid\_Alhoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulitharid_Alhoon)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/20 "2025-03-26T20:11:44Z")
Thereā€™s a bit of mind numbing things but I agreeā€¦ this has zero effect on what I already do ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/515700_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/21 "2025-03-26T21:01:19Z")
In an attempt to explain what @Gerard_Amatin means about, **ā€œInrease the minimum SP value to at least 6 or 7 million SP from 5.ā€** As an alpha player anyone could set up training for 30 characters on 10 different accounts. Capping all 30 at 5 million SP, then taking their sweet time, to gain the needed 500,000 SP through dailies or other means. Now wait for an omega giveaway and sell off 30 x 500,000 SP ( 15,000,000 ). Raising the minimum from 5 to 7 million just adds more time and effort. It doesnā€™t stop the farming, it only takes longer for the crop to be harvested. They can raise the bar to the max of 20 million at which point your alpha has all the skills it can use and more. It would not bother me in the least. How about instead CCP just stop giving away free omega? If plexing or cash was the only paths to omega, then farming a mess of AFK alphas would be very pointless. This would only hurt the players who plan to abuse alpha accounts as skill point harvesters. Another method would be to eliminate skill extractors, the only source of skill points, would be to earn them, or buy them from the CCP store. Games are supposed to be fun, @Skjer_Artrald are you having fun AFK farming skills? Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Skjer\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skjer_artrald/32/462498_2.png) [@Skjer\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skjer_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169/22 "2025-03-27T01:12:05Z")
atleast reset the air career program for everybody i just need a few more SP [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/air-career-sp-farming-discontinued-at-last/481169.md?page=2)