# All exploration signatures visible in agency **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 7, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542 "2019-05-07T14:45:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Mehashi\_Kho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mehashi_kho/32/489542_2.png) [@Mehashi\_Kho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mehashi_Kho)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/181 "2019-05-27T11:32:01Z")
Also want to register a vote for this being an awful change. We want more people _in space_ looking for their riches. The time spent jumping around, scanning sigs that aren’t suitable, going down dead pipes. All that is time that a player is _in space_ and available for potential interactions. A system where people don’t even bother going down that pipe because there are no sigs, or don’t even bother undocking as their area is dry. This is a system that discourages pilots being _in space_ for longer. Interaction between players is what this game is about. Interaction happens in space. Mystery is a carrot that keeps people undocked for longer. Removing that uncertainty is a huge mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/182 "2019-05-27T16:58:14Z")
its an epic sin to put a timeout or a fuel requirement on cloaky camping but theres a magical New Eden wide internet that reports on all anoms and feeds them in to your year 30015 computer …just not in wh space because that wouldnt make any sense. …point of the statement is its silly idea and sorta just represents a lot of the disconnect a lot of us are feeling right now. ---
**Author:** ![Ix\_Zhi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ix_zhi/32/137862_2.png) [@Ix\_Zhi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ix_Zhi)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/183 "2019-05-27T23:14:07Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > theres a magical New Eden wide internet that reports on all anoms and feeds them in to your year 30015 computer That part is what is bothering me too. If they created the option for explorers to publish their scanned sigs to the Agency, that’s one thing. But the whole, “auto-detect signatures, but you still have to scan a few of them” concept they have going now, just ruins any level of immersion, and as @Mehashi_Kho said, ultimately will result in less people in space to engage or interact with. It’s a change for changes sake, not really tackling any problem currently in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/184 "2019-05-27T23:24:59Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > point of the statement is its silly idea and sorta just represents a lot of the disconnect a lot of us are feeling right now. I don’t think anyone but a small handful of players in EVE actually care about this kind of “immersion.” ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/185 "2019-05-27T23:32:17Z")
So I think we can say this is the nerf that nobody asked for. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/186 "2019-05-27T23:32:39Z")
but is he talking about immersion, Scoots? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/187 "2019-05-27T23:36:02Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > s he talking about immersion Yes he is! And the person below him who replied as well! ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/188 "2019-05-28T07:21:27Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > And the person below him who replied as well! Pretty much everyone in the entire thread thinks this is a stupid idea bud. Not just immersion-breaking, but in terms of having players out there in space searching for things and not knowing what it is they’ll find, be it pvp or pve encounters. If you’d given the activity an even remote interest or experienced it beyond your current attention span, you’d probably agree as well, but you most likely haven’t. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/189 "2019-05-28T08:21:04Z")
> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#): > > If you’d given the activity an even remote interest or experienced it beyond your current attention span, you’d probably agree as well, but you most likely haven’t. I’m actually really glad about this change since this means I waste less time because (1) I know where to go for the signatures, (2) i can see signatures disappear and tell if there’s someone else competing for the sites and set up an ambush to kill them, and (3) helps me track the movements of anyone else running sites. I don’t know about you, but this just seems like a win win in my book. I know you guys are just crying and being mad for the sake of being mad when you have to turn to the literal dictionary definition of the word and try to use that as an argument. lmao ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/190 "2019-05-28T09:24:57Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > I’m actually really glad about this change since this means I waste less time because (1) I know where to go for the signatures, (2) i can see signatures disappear and tell if there’s someone else competing for the sites and set up an ambush to kill them, and (3) helps me track the movements of anyone else running sites. The problem is you wont be alone doing this, and you’re not looking beyond your own individual experience to have aspects of the game dumbed down for your benefit. You’re one of those entitled players who want it all on a silver platter and then leave once they realize the activity isn’t profitable anymore. For starters, this change will have a huge effect on exploration loot prices as the scarcity and time element to obtain them is reduced, making the activity much less profitable on the long run. Then people will all be dragged into the same spot to get the best loot, shoot, or get shot at, turning the activity into a racing and camping game. Pvpers will no longer have to work to get their easy ambush kills, Explorers will no longer have to work to get their soon to be worthless loot, which they’ll just eventually realize and stop exploring altogether. Entitled easy-freeloading idiots like you are the reason games wither and die. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/191 "2019-05-28T09:25:48Z")
> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#): > > Entitled easy-freeloading idiots like you are the reason games wither and die Adapt or die, son. Looks like I’m gonna have fun and you’ll sit here salty. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/192 "2019-05-28T09:26:52Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Adapt or die, son. Looks like I’m gonna have fun and you’ll sit here salty. You wont have anything to shoot at, nor will you have anything worth turning sites for. Enjoy, son. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/193 "2019-05-28T09:30:12Z")
> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#): > > You wont have anything to shoot at, nor will you have anything worth turning sites for. Lol, ok. Keep thinking that if it makes you feel any better. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/194 "2019-05-28T09:32:37Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Lol, ok. Keep thinking that if it makes you feel any better. You just prefer a kiddy Call of Duty version of Eve. Fact. You know if I wanted to I could easily set up a ganking squad at the flip of my CC and gank you whereever you go exploring to for no effort. Yet you still dont understand the bigger problem of this, and just goin “heyy free kills and ■■■■”, like a retard. ---
**Author:** ![Phoebe\_Obray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phoebe_obray/32/131942_2.png) [@Phoebe\_Obray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phoebe_Obray)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/195 "2019-05-28T09:44:31Z")
Why do people keep falling for the obvious trolls, there’s no way to have a worthwhile discussion on these forums (or pretty much anywhere on the internet really). Why even waste your energy on them? ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/196 "2019-05-28T09:53:19Z")
The worrying thing is, he’s not even a troll. Im sure quite a number of people like this change for the same reasons as he. And that’s why they need to be shot down. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/197 "2019-05-28T09:55:20Z")
> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#): > > You know if I wanted to I could easily set up a ganking squad at the flip of my CC and gank you whereever you go exploring to for no effort. I’ll give 5 billion isk if you can kill me in the next week with your gank squad. Let’s see your credit card flip, baby. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/198 "2019-05-28T10:53:36Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > I’ll give 5 billion isk if you can kill me in the next week with your gank squad. Let’s see your credit card flip, baby. It can be done, be it would be wasted effort on your behalf. Also no doubt with that kind of money you’d have easygank squads of your own to do just that on some other guy. And henceforth proves the point : You = Easymode Shitkid. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/199 "2019-05-28T11:09:13Z")
> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#): > > It can be done, be it would be wasted effort on your behalf. 10b or all this is just cheap coward talk. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/200 "2019-05-28T11:19:53Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > 10b or all this is just cheap coward talk. Do you only know retardtalk ? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542.md?page=11)