# All exploration signatures visible in agency **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 7, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542 "2019-05-07T14:45:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/221 "2019-05-28T15:11:46Z")
+1 But tell that to the instant gratification shitkids who just want Eve to become an FPS Arena. ---
**Author:** ![Wyk\_Bathana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wyk_bathana/32/374287_2.png) [@Wyk\_Bathana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wyk_Bathana)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/222 "2019-05-28T15:36:11Z")
> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#): > > Farmbots will race to overrun each site while idiots like Choco here who treats Eve like an FPS, will eventually get bored killing bots, and soon it will be just like FW, a botfilled wasteland. serious question (no troll): i have never heard about bots able to scan relic/data sites and hack cans… or was it just a figurative sense about some real players whoses main objective is to earn isks? ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/223 "2019-05-28T15:58:13Z")
> [@Wyk\_Bathana](#): > > serious question (no troll): i have never heard about bots able to scan relic/data sites and hack cans… or was it just a figurative sense about some real players whoses main objective is to earn isks? Cant for sure verify botting for relic/data sites, but i wouldnt be surprised. AI is really going places these days. As for human “bot” behavior, anyone can farm the ■■■■ out of exploration if he wants to with several alts, so same applies. ---
**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/224 "2019-05-28T17:11:47Z")
> [@Heretic-of-Amarr](#): > > As a noobie, I can tell you that I can’t see how this helps new players. > > Currently, the problem in Hi and Lo sec is finding systems that aren’t being run. Going from system to system to find that site that others have missed is better than sitting in station and racing others to a new site in hoping that you will be the first there. This cant be emphasized enough. There is competition for sites. Now players are going to race to systems when the sites spawn and its going to be the new and causal players that suffer. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/225 "2019-05-28T17:57:42Z")
Think about how much time is wasted warping around. Hopefully CCP won’t stop at just making exploration so much better - _what eve needs is fast travel_ With the ability to instantly travel anywhere in new eden, more fights will happen because more players will be able to get to the same places faster! Newer players will especially benefit! It shall be magnificent! If you think such a wonderful change might not be a great idea, you are just a hidebound bitter deadweight loving the whinge bandwagon who obviously hates any change. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/226 "2019-05-28T18:00:19Z")
Sarcasm detector just blew up in my face !!! ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett\_LaBlanc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlett_lablanc/32/358434_2.png) [@Scarlett\_LaBlanc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlett_LaBlanc)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/227 "2019-05-28T18:17:18Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > what _eve needs is fast travel_ > [@Erik\_Aihaken](#): > > Sarcasm detector just blew up in my face !!! I have taken shrapnel damage. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/228 "2019-05-28T18:19:10Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > what eve needs is fast travel Exactly! And whoever doesn’t like it, just shouldn’t use it. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/229 "2019-05-28T18:26:00Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Exactly! And whoever doesn’t like it, just shouldn’t use it. Yours is lacking batteries it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/230 "2019-05-28T18:48:07Z")
> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#): > > Yours is lacking batteries it seems. Naah, I just went a little further on the sarcasm. 😛 (I’ve seen people using the same argumentation that ‘_if the agency gives too much info, just don’t use it_’… As if that would make such a change any better.) ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/231 "2019-05-28T19:06:30Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Naah, I just went a little further on the sarcasm. 😛 > (I’ve seen people using the same argumentation that ‘ _if the agency gives too much info, just don’t use it_ ’… As if that would make such a change any better.) Well like I said, mine exploded in a million tiny bits, it could only take such a level. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/232 "2019-05-28T19:17:44Z")
> [@Phoebe\_Obray](#): > > Why even waste your energy on them? Indeed, why are you? ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/233 "2019-05-29T03:33:09Z")
So in a few months it’ll be bargests farming highsec exploration sites like they do everything else. ho hum. I’m sure CCP will make it up to us. With NEW™ exploration content - that’ll require a gang to do. The multiboxers will love it. I feel like telling some people to go F themselves right now. 🤔 Wonder where that urge is coming from? ---
**Author:** ![Nanyana\_Diya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nanyana_diya/32/497134_2.png) [@Nanyana\_Diya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nanyana_Diya)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/234 "2019-05-29T05:17:14Z")
I have been a scanner since I started out in 2013. I still do it on a regular basis. Not because I earn the most per hour with it, but because I enjoy exploring stuff. When I played this game for 2 weeks I was allready in WH’s scanning stuff down, feeling excited what would lie in the next system. Later on I started daytripping NS. Now I live in NS and exploring still. Still excited what will be in the next system. What will I find? I never know. Now I can see what systems have combat sigs and how many sigs there are per system. I feel that is a bad move. It takes away from the exploring side of scanning. The excitement of coming into a system with 5 signatures. Then finding out there are 4 relic sites… 4… Also it takes away from the disappointment the next system has 3 cambat sigs in it. Without downs you cannot have ups. Please CCP, fix this ASAP. Scanning in my opinion is about never knowing what lies ahead of you. Like a present waiting for you to be opened. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/235 "2019-05-29T07:20:24Z")
> [@Nanyana\_Diya](#): > > Without downs you cannot have ups. But, CCP (ie PA) seems to think streamlining their content all on the same level will save their game … ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/236 "2019-05-30T18:02:58Z")
Well, it didn’t turn out all that bad after all. Mainly because its completely unreliable. So, I started todays session. Opened this ‘exploration’ window, found a system along my usual roaming track to set initial waypoint, there was 5 signatures in Agency window there. Perfect. So I went there. Found a 4/10, got some nice loot and left the system happy. Nothing changed though, Agency window was still showing 5 signatures in the system I just left. So I came back in case it have just respawned back. But it hasn’t. There were 2 sigs in the system by that time, and 5 sigs still showing in Agency. I didn’t report this bug. I don’t really want them to fix this one ))) Hey, @CCP_Falcon, @CCP\_Ghost gave such a powerful talk at EVEsterdam. He was talking how he was analyzing players behavior from psychological perspective. Looking for their innermost motivations. I have been listening to Jordan Petersons lectures for past 2 years, and you know, he mentioned in one of his lectures this experiment where some scientists removed 99% of this cats brain except for hypothalamus I believe, its one of the innermost nervous centers which controls ‘body temperature, hunger, important aspects of parenting and attachment behaviors, thirst, fatigue, sleep, and circadian rhythms’ according to Wikipedia. And you know what aspect of behavior essentially a brainless cat still has? Curiosity. Is this change @CCP\_Wanderboy’s doing? Is it Teams decision? Is it higher-ups command? I don’t see it benefitting newbros at all as he claims it should. I got lucky in todays session, this 4/10 kept respawning nearby, I ran 3 of them in 20 minutes window, not much loot, but still. If Agency window will work as it was supposed to I’ll farm ship out of those sites, and no newbro will stand a chance to compete. I’ll hoard billions because it is what I like to do, and then I’ll ‘win EVE’, because what is the point of it? Exploration is gone. Challenge is gone. Achievement is gone. Its turning into race to the site and farming. Can CCP\_Ghost be summoned to express his opinion on this change? I trust his opinion after aforementioned talk. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/237 "2019-05-30T18:41:34Z")
They should know what is “Malcani’s law” by now, but it is CCP, everything they do to help newbros always ends quite the opposite. Someone who designed signature part obviously don’t play the game, by the time player will get to the distant system, sites may already be cleared out, how this suppose to help new players? Pissing on vets, and making newbros confused. Great job,and whole this is under pve dev management… ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/238 "2019-05-31T20:45:35Z")
> [@Siegfried\_Tahl](#): > > I have been listening to Jordan Petersons lectures for past 2 years You have my sympathy. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/239 "2019-06-03T08:12:11Z")
> [@Siegfried\_Tahl](#): > > Well, it didn’t turn out all that bad after all. Mainly because its completely unreliable. > > So, I started todays session. Opened this ‘exploration’ window, found a system along my usual roaming track to set initial waypoint, there was 5 signatures in Agency window there. Perfect. So I went there. Found a 4/10, got some nice loot and left the system happy. Nothing changed though, Agency window was still showing 5 signatures in the system I just left. So I came back in case it have just respawned back. But it hasn’t. There were 2 sigs in the system by that time, and 5 sigs still showing in Agency. > > I didn’t report this bug. I don’t really want them to fix this one ))) > > Hey, @CCP_Falcon, @CCP\_Ghost gave such a powerful talk at EVEsterdam. He was talking how he was analyzing players behavior from psychological perspective. Looking for their innermost motivations. > > I have been listening to Jordan Petersons lectures for past 2 years, and you know, he mentioned in one of his lectures this experiment where some scientists removed 99% of this cats brain except for hypothalamus I believe, its one of the innermost nervous centers which controls ‘body temperature, hunger, important aspects of parenting and attachment behaviors, thirst, fatigue, sleep, and circadian rhythms’ according to Wikipedia. And you know what aspect of behavior essentially a brainless cat still has? Curiosity. > > Is this change @CCP\_Wanderboy’s doing? Is it Teams decision? Is it higher-ups command? > > I don’t see it benefitting newbros at all as he claims it should. > > I got lucky in todays session, this 4/10 kept respawning nearby, I ran 3 of them in 20 minutes window, not much loot, but still. If Agency window will work as it was supposed to I’ll farm ship out of those sites, and no newbro will stand a chance to compete. I’ll hoard billions because it is what I like to do, and then I’ll ‘win EVE’, because what is the point of it? Exploration is gone. Challenge is gone. Achievement is gone. Its turning into race to the site and farming. > > Can CCP\_Ghost be summoned to express his opinion on this change? I trust his opinion after aforementioned talk. All this fine knowledge is just a wasted effort with the current devteam Im affraid. ---
**Author:** ![Ashling\_Solette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashling_solette/32/411037_2.png) [@Ashling\_Solette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashling_Solette)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/240 "2019-06-05T22:59:31Z")
I did some experimenting with this the other day and the only way I could get the cosmic sigs to refresh in the agency window is to completely relog. Assuming that is correct and the cosmic sigs in the agency only update on login, this is the best possible outcome for this feature IMHO. On the one hand, CCP’s “target audience” for this feature, i.e. players that log in for 30ish minutes max then log out, will find this extremely useful. On the other hand, 23/7 bots and intel characters will find this completely worthless because the data is up to 23 hours old. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542.md?page=13)