# All exploration signatures visible in agency **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 7, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542 "2019-05-07T14:45:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/101 "2019-05-17T21:52:00Z")
Been here for long? Playing EvE suboptimally? Woot? Biomass right know. It’s predatory and unfogiving enviroment. There is no suboptimal play. It’s like putting armor tank on raven. Another proof for Jester words. Devs cater to players like you because they think made things easier populare the server. Which is the opposite. People choose EvE because it was nothing like other games. Making it like other games is preparing coffin for it. The mobile style UI agency is the proof of for what audience they are fighting. EvE lived for so long because it was different. Now we have microtransactions, gambling and the state of the game was far from healthy and it will became worse. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/102 "2019-05-17T21:54:33Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > It’s predatory and unfogiving enviroment. The irony is that you’re crying about how this makes exploration too easy, when you could be using this new change to be part of that predatory and unforgiving environment because you know exactly where people will be travelling to. Instead, you’re whining because instead of figuring out how you can best take advantage of these change, you just want EVE to remain static and unchanged so that your personal snowflakey style of gameplay isn’t touched. How dare the game change and make you approach it a different way! How _dare_ it!! ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/103 "2019-05-17T22:10:44Z")
That’s the point. I’m not the hunter I’m the prey and giving the more help for hunters “because it is pvp game blabla” we all know it, didn’t make it any better. Hunting is already incredible easy. Just because you don’t know how to do it is not my problem. Throwing out the window meanigfull gameplay is answer for what? Not enough people were exploring? Salvage loot too expensive? Not enough kills? I really want to read that bull\*\*\*\* sblog devs will fry about how stupid they are and how they gonna lose subs but they don’t know it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/104 "2019-05-17T22:11:28Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > That’s the point. I’m not the hunter I’m the prey and giving the more help for hunters Then get better? Sucks for you, but the game is supposed to be harsh and cruel. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/105 "2019-05-17T22:18:30Z")
You nailed it. Let’s start farming people. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/106 "2019-05-17T22:21:29Z")
Game already favours hunters in theirs recons. Why lowsec is deserted? Making it even better for hunters produce better gameplay for everybody…? Don’t worry about me, I’m already exploring milky way in Elite. Put my name on several systems already. Just passing by and checking what’s new here. From my point of view you’ll be playing a lot with yourself, soon. Slippery slope began. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/107 "2019-05-17T22:37:42Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > Why lowsec is deserted? Making it even better for hunters produce better gameplay for everybody…? If you think the Agency changes is what caused the current state of lowsec, then you really don’t know what you’re talking about. This just serves to show me that you’re only complaining about this because you’re afraid of losing a ship or two to gankers just because signatures are slightly more visible. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/108 "2019-05-17T22:45:46Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Where in the game is it forcing you to use the Agency? I just noticed you are the only using the term “forcing”. On this topic. Then you repeat the same term again. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > FORCING what you do is called a “strawman” : you are affirming people said something, and then you say this is wrong. But people did not say that. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/109 "2019-05-17T22:45:47Z")
Lowsec is already dead noob, and I bet you don’t even why. I get it, you like it, it will make game easier for you. What you don’t understand, most of explorers won’t play under that conditions, not even beacuse this will have nothing to do with exploration, but mostly because they won’t hack camped systems. I really want to read the blog, I bet I’ll be laughing hard. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/110 "2019-05-17T22:50:31Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > You’re doing a great job of dodging the question. You claimed that we don’t need probe launchers anymore to scan down signatures due to the change in the Agency. Is this true? not really. > [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > What next? Removing probe lanuchers? he’s saying that probe system is getting easier, and he assumes the long time goal for CCP is to remove the probe launchers. Note the use of “will” which indicates the FUTURE while your post is in the present form in > [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > They will be redundant as unnecessary and tedious mechanism. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/111 "2019-05-17T22:52:48Z")
back to topic I personally wished the signatures did not appear in agency, and not in system probe either. Scan all the systems to find some interesting signatures ! But well I don’t care actually. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/112 "2019-05-17T22:53:26Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > What you don’t understand, most of explorers won’t play under that conditions, not even beacuse this will have nothing to do with exploration, but mostly because they won’t hack camped systems. Sucks for you and your cowardly friends who are so afraid of losing a ship that you won’t even enter a system. More riches for me. > [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > I really want to read the blog, I bet I’ll be laughing hard. Please record this and make a youtube video of it. I’d really like to see this. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/113 "2019-05-17T23:00:09Z")
This ship sailed away. Game will become more casual now. Average age is high, playerbase is aging. Next generation is not interested in spending so much time in game sessions. They are spolied by mictrotransactions and insta gratification. I wonder if trigs incursions will destroy citadels, that would be huge nail into coffin. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/114 "2019-05-18T07:01:16Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > No you’re not. Lol. Yes you are. Lol. Well, we could keep this up all day. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/115 "2019-05-18T07:03:10Z")
> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#): > > Yes you are. Lol. > > Well, we could keep this up all day We could, but at the end of the day, the change is coming, and I’ll be smiling while you stay here crying about how it’s so unfair for you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/116 "2019-05-18T07:14:44Z")
I don’t like it so I speak against it, but I’ll live with it if it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/117 "2019-05-18T12:41:14Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > No you’re not being forced to. > > You are actively choosing to play the game suboptimally and then throwing a whiny fit when the game tries to provide you quality of life changes for the better. Sure, you can play the game suboptimally if you want. I can mine in an Atron and use a cargosize-rigged Basilisk to haul my valuables through null sec space. But you’d be stupid to do so. If the game introduces a better way to play, it encourages people to use that way. You can call it ‘forcing’ all you want, but people in this game know it’s a bad idea not to use the right tools for the job. And about your second statement, what makes you think I’m ‘throwing a whiny fit’ anywhere in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/118 "2019-05-18T13:25:51Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > when the game tries to provide you quality of life changes for the better. Subjectively better ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/119 "2019-05-18T13:33:05Z")
> [@Phoebe\_Obray](#): > > Why do this, scanning is already ridiculously easy. It’s like they’re doing anything and everything to make it all easier and easier, in a weak attempt to retain more people. They’ve been trying that for years, it worked against them. Hi, in what way is scanning easier? I don’t scan at all because I find it ridiculous and tedious. Should be automatic imo. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542/120 "2019-05-18T13:53:21Z")
In earlier days you had to launch probes one by one, move them into formation manually without saved presets, and then run 32-64AU scan to even see if there are sigs in given system. Those were the days. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-exploration-signatures-visible-in-agency/157542.md?page=7)