# All Traders: Say NO to IChooseYou Trade Hub! **URL:** \ **Category:** Market Discussions\ **Created:** [August 7, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985 "2018-08-07T03:30:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Zahara\_Cody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zahara_cody/32/470812_2.png) [@Zahara\_Cody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zahara_Cody)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/83 "2018-08-12T16:34:18Z")
Just another income stream to fight their nullsec wars. ---
**Author:** ![Elizabeth\_Norn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elizabeth_norn/32/397109_2.png) [@Elizabeth\_Norn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elizabeth_Norn)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/84 "2018-08-12T16:35:05Z")
Prior to Upwell’s structures the NPC market monopoly had settled on lower broker’s fees for most capsuleers than we have today. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/1/e1fcb8bafb2f2f30169686ff2a1a07aaf7b1bbaf.png) ---
**Author:** ![ProjectPhoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/projectphoenix/32/336891_2.png) [@ProjectPhoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ProjectPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/85 "2018-08-12T16:35:20Z")
and its not a bad income stream at all… you’re talking about 1 to 2 trillion isk per month… almost passively… just have to defend when there’s attack. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/86 "2018-08-12T20:41:52Z")
I don’t see a hub around Jita with 0% free… or do you mean the Oijanen Fortizar 10j out? Lol, this is no competition. ---
**Author:** ![ProjectPhoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/projectphoenix/32/336891_2.png) [@ProjectPhoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ProjectPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/87 "2018-08-12T20:43:44Z")
Looks like it’s already stealing the PLEX trading market… Extractor/Injectors are still 99% trading at IChooseYou trade hub… ---
**Author:** ![Sabriz\_Adoudel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabriz_adoudel/32/14017_2.png) [@Sabriz\_Adoudel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabriz_Adoudel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/88 "2018-08-12T22:18:43Z")
It’s perfectly fine for buying PLEX related products. Oijanen and Otitoh are where the vast majority of competitive buy orders for MPTCs are hosted. (I am not currently trading PLEX, nor injectors/extractors, but as these products can be used remotely I am not concerned if they are sold to me outside Jita.) ---
**Author:** ![Moac\_Tor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moac_tor/32/137663_2.png) [@Moac\_Tor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moac_Tor)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/89 "2018-08-12T23:55:59Z")
As PLEX/Injectors/Extractors can all be used remotely, the range from Jita theoretically should make not that much difference for an RMT item trader. The main considerations are that the hub can be kept online, and that the broker fee is as low as possible This Snuff backed hub has the potential to steal the majority of the high value trade from Pandemic Horde if they can keep it online and the broker fee low. ---
**Author:** ![ProjectPhoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/projectphoenix/32/336891_2.png) [@ProjectPhoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ProjectPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/90 "2018-08-13T06:49:08Z")
I’m already doing all of my trading at the new Snuff Fortizaar… 0% broker fee, love it!!! I would continue to trade there as long as the broker fee does not go above 0.3% ---
**Author:** ![Sabriz\_Adoudel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabriz_adoudel/32/14017_2.png) [@Sabriz\_Adoudel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabriz_Adoudel)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/91 "2018-08-13T08:11:23Z")
> [@Moac\_Tor](#): > > As PLEX/Injectors/Extractors can all be used remotely, the range from Jita theoretically should make not that much difference for an RMT item trader. You would be surprised at the premium uninformed buyers will pay to get these goods in 4-4. I’m now sitting on 77 MPTCs in Jita, and expect to sell them in place over time, rather than moving them to citadels. It’s my experience that people will overpay for a perception of convenience. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/92 "2018-08-13T08:16:16Z")
Yup lazy and/or uninformed (ignorant?) customers are the prime source of extra profits. 💰 💰 💰 ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/93 "2018-08-13T08:45:40Z")
Didn’t know all the RMT items are remote enabled, thought only PLEX and skill injectors. Actually it’s a shame, they are, even if this helps now with fighting evil vs. evil. 😉 Taking down the snuff hub will be a totally different deal for Gobbins as it’s based in lowsec which is not crippled in defense like highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Ces](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ces/32/182837_2.png) [@Ces](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ces)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/94 "2018-08-16T02:12:14Z")
its do able lol I just paid for the $500 deal for all those plex with those extra training addons took forever to think about it but got it before the deal ended. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/95 "2018-08-16T17:40:25Z")
Didn’t expect the Oijanen hub going down that fast. Goons don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Turlock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charlie_turlock/32/356445_2.png) [@Charlie\_Turlock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charlie_Turlock)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/96 "2018-08-16T22:29:26Z")
Me looking surprised. ---
**Author:** ![DelBoy\_Trades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/delboy_trades/32/409732_2.png) [@DelBoy\_Trades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DelBoy_Trades)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/97 "2018-08-17T12:55:54Z")
You should read the Eve economic report. The gap between sinks and faucets aren’t as stark as you’re implying. ---
**Author:** ![Jeronica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeronica/32/383351_2.png) [@Jeronica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeronica)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/98 "2018-08-18T14:06:12Z")
lol… ---
**Author:** ![Alexi\_Black](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexi_black/32/64627_2.png) [@Alexi\_Black](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexi_Black)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/99 "2018-08-19T02:12:24Z")
Whats the problem with being successful? ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/100 "2018-08-19T22:04:05Z")
man, op’s some whiny, envious, freeloadin’ princess hatin’ on people smarter and better than her. i got flagged yet again! there’s rebates after gettin’ flagged ten times, so keep ‘em comin’ kids! ---
**Author:** ![Vaerah\_Vahrokha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vaerah_vahrokha/32/20806_2.png) [@Vaerah\_Vahrokha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vaerah_Vahrokha)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/101 "2018-09-06T15:10:48Z")
Wow, who created such awful forums? The old ones were better! Anyway, in a market driven economy, a guy is free to raise his fees until people mass abandon him to his destiny. Until then, he’s free to ask whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Amon\_Calis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amon_calis/32/178551_2.png) [@Amon\_Calis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amon_Calis)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985/102 "2018-09-08T05:29:51Z")
I already see a ■■■■ tonne of business moving away from this hub, maybe he/she will adjust to consumers reaction. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-traders-say-no-to-ichooseyou-trade-hub/95985.md?page=6)