# Alliance Tournament XVII Starts Tomorrow! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Created:** [November 5, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440 "2021-11-05T14:01:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/21 "2021-11-05T16:29:47Z")
I feel that Boundary Experts should receive the killmail if someone boundaries. After all, they are the expert on it. ---
**Author:** ![Sofia\_Roseburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sofia_roseburn/32/295246_2.png) [@Sofia\_Roseburn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sofia_Roseburn)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/22 "2021-11-05T16:30:43Z")
Pretty much this. If the NFT generation was opt in then it would be less objectionable, even if it remains unpalatable. Truth is, if anyone wanted to memorialise a kill then they can just take a screenshot or even record a video, both of which avoid the FOTM that is NFT. Bear in mind that Tezos isn’t even implemented on Opensea yet, so you can’t even grift these things unless you go to some back alley exchange. The only value that these things have is a negative environmental value, and why CCP would be keen to contribute to that is an interesting question considering how eco-friendly Iceland usually is. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/23 "2021-11-05T16:31:54Z")
> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#): > > that CCP decided to take a sponsorship deal and spin it as an eco friendly reward? I know you have no principles but some people do, there is a reason they waited so long to announce this. I highly doubt anyone knee jerk reaction would be to just not show up but had this been with advanced warning there would have probably been a few groups ticked off enough. This is the dumbest thing you’ve ever written. > [@Sofia\_Roseburn](#): > > Pretty much this. If the NFT generation was opt in then it would be less objectionable, even if it remains unpalatable. Truth is, if anyone wanted to memorialise a kill then they can just take a screenshot or even record a video, both of which avoid the FOTM that is NFT. > > Bear in mind that Tezos isn’t even implemented on Opensea yet, so you can’t even grift these things unless you go to some back alley exchange. The only value that these things have is a negative environmental value, and why CCP would be keen to contribute to that is an interesting question considering how eco-friendly Iceland usually is. Ah, so this is just a made up complaint. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/24 "2021-11-05T16:35:29Z")
> Each death that occurs during the tournament will be minted into an NFT (non-fungible token) of the killmail to be memorialized on the Tezos blockchain. CCP, i expected better of you than to even go anywhere near the tech cancer that is NFT’s Like what the actual ■■■■ are you thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/25 "2021-11-05T16:38:22Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Like what the actual ■■■■ are you thinking Like our friend from the csm $$$ is all they think about ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/26 "2021-11-05T16:42:58Z")
> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#): > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > Like what the actual ■■■■ are you thinking > > Like our friend from the csm $$$ is all they think about. I wonder if anyone told CCP that steam doesn’t approve of games which have NFT’s in them and removes them from the store Someone might want to let them know lol ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/27 "2021-11-05T16:44:19Z")
NFTs are, at their core, a ponzi scheme. They hurt artists, and they hurt the people who come in later. Will _this_ with the AT have any direct effect? No, probably not. But it’s about making them socially acceptable. Yet another thing to help sucker in new blood. That’s what I object to with them here. (With other NFTs, they use a ruinous amount of energy. Sure, _these_ ones don’t. But like I said, this helps make them more acceptable to the regular person. NFTs, and other uses of blockchain are, in general, a grift. That shouldn’t be rewarded.) ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/28 "2021-11-05T16:48:18Z")
You can make the same argument about cryptocurrency. Hell, people DID make those same arguments about cryptocurrency. Until, suddenly, people start making absurd actual money off of them and now they’re socially acceptable. If folks don’t want them or don’t care, then they’ll go away. But I don’t see any harm in providing these as a victory trophy. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/29 "2021-11-05T16:51:38Z")
And if ccp was partnering with doge coin we would still have an issue And crypto isn’t exactly socially acceptable. They are gambling, yeah some people have made bank but the promise of get rich quick has ruined far more ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/30 "2021-11-05T16:54:51Z")
I _do_ make the same argument about Cryptocurrency. I would quite like for them to go die in a fire, thank you very much. Like I said, uses of block chain are, in general, a grift. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/31 "2021-11-05T17:03:45Z")
Any team that full boundary violates will have my respect ---
**Author:** ![Zuccini\_Vaselini](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Zuccini\_Vaselini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zuccini_Vaselini)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/32 "2021-11-05T17:45:38Z")
> [@CCP\_Fleebix](#): > > If a player goes out of bounds that player will receive an NFT where the killer and victim are the same (aforementioned player), to commemorate this epic event. this needs to include the final distance and an all time leader board for the record ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/33 "2021-11-05T18:06:06Z")
Cryptocurrencies are ■■■■, so are NFT’s. It’s just a new form of selling people premium air. Except you’re also contributing to ruining the planet in the process. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/34 "2021-11-05T18:30:33Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Why would anybody feel strongly enough to not take part? If I was on our AT team, I’d step down. This is crap, Brisc, and even tacitly supporting it will only encourage Hilmar to keep pulling this kind of crap. This is just another example of Hilmar chasing his stupid-ass buzzword ■■■■■■■■. He’s been sucking hard on the blockchain hose for years, and now the AT, something most people have to pay to enter, is being turned into a second-order revenue stream with this nonsense. I support reasonable and well-thought-out monetization. CCP’s gotta stay in business, after all. This isn’t that. This is just more nonsense from the guy who thought Greed Is Good, and that the Chaos Era and Blackout were gonna make everything better. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > now they’re socially acceptable Says who? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/35 "2021-11-05T18:30:55Z")
How long are CCP committing to hosting the image? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/36 "2021-11-05T18:34:22Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Someone might want to let them know lol @Steve_Ronuken did: > Hilmar’s response was ‘Yes’. ---
**Author:** ![Isabella\_Echerie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isabella_echerie/32/343813_2.png) [@Isabella\_Echerie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isabella_Echerie)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/37 "2021-11-05T18:35:36Z")
Did anyone inform Steam on this? Maybe someone should do that too. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/38 "2021-11-05T18:40:20Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > If I was on our AT team, I’d step down. I didn’t think it was possible for me to be _happy_ that we fell off the tournament in the feeder rounds. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/39 "2021-11-05T18:47:46Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/9/9/09977f2c38cd7c961c182d5c0072f00f4ec7b20d.png) Apparently they already know. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/40 "2021-11-05T18:49:11Z")
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