# Alliance Tournament XVII Starts Tomorrow! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Created:** [November 5, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440 "2021-11-05T14:01:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/41 "2021-11-05T18:59:13Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > Someone might want to let them know lol > > @Steve_Ronuken did: > [https://twitter.com/Fuzzysteve/status/1456665488130547714](https://twitter.com/Fuzzysteve/status/1456665488130547714) > > Hilmar’s response was ‘Yes’ Well, i guess thats as close to “I don’t want users from steam” as possible lol > [@Arrendis](#): > > Doesn’t touch the game? > > You get access to it by logging into your EVE account. > It’s created by something you do in-game, through the EVE client To be fair, even if it didn’t, its still going to cost them some PR, lets hope CCPA have properly considered the damage this can do given that the majority of EVE players are nerds and understand that NFT’s are BS ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/42 "2021-11-05T19:14:10Z")
I mean there is that report button on their store ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/43 "2021-11-05T19:16:04Z")
Yeah but eve brings in enough money to stream that valve doesn’t care. It’s not like they are know for fair and balanced implementations of their policies ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/44 "2021-11-05T19:17:10Z")
Riiiiight. A free-to-play game totally brings in _huge_ revenue for Valve. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/45 "2021-11-05T19:17:57Z")
Yeah… a free to play game that loads the store up with predatory Micos ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/46 "2021-11-05T19:26:37Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > If I was on our AT team, I’d step down. This is crap, Brisc, and even tacitly supporting it will only encourage Hilmar to keep pulling this kind of crap. I honestly don’t care one way or the other. As for crypto being socially acceptable, it’s everywhere now, and plenty of people are using it and trading it, making a lot of actual money from it. As for the Steam thing, that’s another example of people not reading the fine print or not understanding what is actually happening. There is no issue with Steam - EVE has no NFTs anywhere in the client or the actual game at all. That a third-party is making an NFT around an in-game event has nothing to do with what Valve was trying to prohibit. You all sound like the folks who were utterly convinced that EVE would be banned in the EU when the hypernet came out two years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/47 "2021-11-05T19:29:26Z")
Again, I could say the same thing with traditional gambling. I guess this is a little different though it’s less gambling when you’re behind the pump and dump ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/48 "2021-11-05T19:36:58Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > As for crypto being socially acceptable, it’s everywhere now, and plenty of people are using it and trading it, making a lot of actual money from it. Yeah, so’s Zuckerberg. That doesn’t make him socially acceptable, either. 😛 > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > You all sound like the folks who were utterly convinced that EVE would be banned in the EU when the hypernet came out two years ago. Dude, I still maintain Hilmar’s claims of inventing the freaking _raffle_ are among the stupidest things ever put on Twitch. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/49 "2021-11-05T19:38:38Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Dude, I still maintain Hilmar’s claims of inventing the freaking _raffle_ are among the stupidest things ever put on Twitch. The Monocle stunt was stupider. But let’s see what his _genius_ mind has cooked up for the FF. ![REDNES](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/6/5/46546bd503d48e965b38598d40d9a3df4c837f5a.png) ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/50 "2021-11-05T22:09:47Z")
Well, well, well. Curious that browsing Twitter I see a link to a story about EA calling _NFTs and blockchain games “the future of our industry”_ On the Bandwagon! ---
**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/51 "2021-11-05T22:36:26Z")
Turn modules into traded NFTs like Pithum A-type invulns then we’re talking. Like, allow us to burn the module in station, receive the NFT and trade it, then burn the NFT for the item again. Lock it to the same station to preserve the risk of moving the item through space. ---
**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/52 "2021-11-05T22:37:46Z")
Create a pay-to-earn token that trickles in like SP, but at a steady rate. Allow us to exchange them for vanity items exclusive to the token. The concept behind it is… simply giving players some unit of measurement for their time spent playing. Like customer reward points… Doesn’t have anything to do with money. Directly. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/53 "2021-11-06T01:25:24Z")
Lol. So they do NFTs and in true CCP fashion they put it onto a dead platform. Classic ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/54 "2021-11-06T18:42:38Z")
![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/9/4/994374967bd3db221770a787607fa672a5d3e7ee.jpeg) ![REDNES](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/6/5/46546bd503d48e965b38598d40d9a3df4c837f5a.png) ---
**Author:** ![State\_Soldier\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/state_soldier_1/32/336854_2.png) [@State\_Soldier\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/State_Soldier_1)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/55 "2021-11-06T21:51:15Z")
Haven’t been this excited since bubble jackets ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/56 "2021-11-06T23:48:57Z")
Current minimum value of a PNG for the seller +1 ꜩ = US$6.43 For those “lucky” enough to get “final blow” multiple times, this could be a good way to make money off the backs of your alliance tournament team mates and of course give CCP a little cash injection. That is of course **“if”** enough players are willing to pay for a PNG. ---
**Author:** ![Moriar\_theChosen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moriar_thechosen/32/368191_2.png) [@Moriar\_theChosen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moriar_theChosen)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2021, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/57 "2021-11-07T00:09:26Z")
Today was just awesome. Some dunks. Some nail biters. Loving the faster schedule and the 3D mouse camera control. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/58 "2021-11-07T00:31:17Z")
Does anyone have a link to the stream? Google isn’t co-operating. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/59 "2021-11-07T03:19:08Z")
[Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/ccp) simple as that m ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_swift/32/381987_2.png) [@CCP\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Swift)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2021, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii-starts-tomorrow/335440/60 "2021-11-07T10:58:33Z")
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