# Alliance Tournament XVII

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** alliance-tournament, official\
**Created:** [July 14, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955 "2021-07-14T18:54:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![ntopios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ntopios/32/253890_2.png) [@ntopios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ntopios)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/42 "2021-07-14T23:19:25Z")

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So are we going to get any offers in eve store for the AT participants ? You know something with a catchy description like everything else you are announcing.

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**Author:** ![Moriar\_theChosen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moriar_thechosen/32/368191_2.png) [@Moriar\_theChosen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moriar_theChosen)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/43 "2021-07-15T00:07:55Z")

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We are so so hyped for this. When the AT stopped everyone freaked out. Now, there is widespread happiness.

Stay Frosty Intel leak!! All strategies will be WINMATAR. Hurricane is the best ship in the game.

Also, @CCP_Swift, you guys should try to get that guy Elise Randolph to do commentary again! 😉

Also also, very happy to see the Slasher wreaking havoc in the last two announcement videos!

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/44 "2021-07-15T00:35:13Z")

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Where did you see that?

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/45 "2021-07-15T00:38:59Z")

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They reference a “mercenary rule”

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/46 "2021-07-15T00:58:09Z")

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When was the last AT?  
Oh right, WhoTF cares.

CCP brains trust - Lets bring back AT, at a time we’re losing player confidence faster than you can flush away last nights curry

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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/47 "2021-07-15T01:08:18Z")

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Dear CCP,

You did something that appeals to players that aren’t me. And that’s a problem because what my friends and I want is obviously representative of what the player base as a whole wants. The key to saving Eve is simple -make sure that all development effort is designed to appeal to me personally.

Also, I realize that various devs have put in an extraordinary amount of UNPAID work into running AT’s in years past, and I really don’t how much effort some of you guys put into it this year (or how game development works for that matter), but I’m bitter and looking for reasons to be angry. So, I’m just going to assume that you brought the AT back because it was the laziest idea that you could come up with.

Please Get Fuck3d  
Shipwreck Jones

P.S. I know people used to complain about the dev effort that went into designing AT ships that only tiny fraction of players would ever get to fly, but I invested in AT ships. So I’m pissed that my investment might lose value now that you guys will start recycling AT ships. I don’t care if this is the best decision for the game as a whole, because it doesn’t benefit me personally.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/48 "2021-07-15T01:22:00Z")

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I love you.

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**Author:** ![Moriar\_theChosen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moriar_thechosen/32/368191_2.png) [@Moriar\_theChosen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moriar_theChosen)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/49 "2021-07-15T01:47:40Z")

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Right?! I couldn’t be happier! This is gonna be killer.

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**Author:** ![Moriar\_theChosen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moriar_thechosen/32/368191_2.png) [@Moriar\_theChosen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moriar_theChosen)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/50 "2021-07-15T01:54:44Z")

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Lies!!! Lowsec is still kicking!!

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**Author:** ![Zahara\_Cody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zahara_cody/32/470812_2.png) [@Zahara\_Cody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zahara_Cody)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/51 "2021-07-15T01:58:55Z")

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Scarcity! Except Alliance Tournament ships. At a time when CCP is punishing the average player with “scarcity”, they need to dumb it down for the so called “elite” because alliance tournament ships are entirely way too difficult for them to obtain.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/52 "2021-07-15T02:52:31Z")

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> [@Cypherous](#):
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> I’m disappointed how this announcement was made, the AT coming back only really needed a dev blog yet CCP thought in their infinite wisdom that video announcement was in some way required which resulted in massive interest that ended up with more disappointment than it really needed to
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> Can’t help but feel PR screwed the pooch on this one

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/d/4/ad4062a486cdc99f954108dac8b9fa75d186e966.jpeg "Famous Dex - "Hoes Mad" (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6oTIjvw_-8)

is the current eve generation so soft?

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**Author:** ![Zahara\_Cody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zahara_cody/32/470812_2.png) [@Zahara\_Cody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zahara_Cody)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/53 "2021-07-15T03:13:37Z")

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Of note, only two Frekis and not a single Mimir have been lost in PVP. We without a doubt require 50 more of each hulls to be introduced into the ecosystem. If there’s anyone that requires the greatest amount of CCP hand holding, it’s certainly the nullsec “elite”.

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**Author:** ![Hux\_Yarlo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hux_yarlo/32/389629_2.png) [@Hux\_Yarlo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hux_Yarlo)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/54 "2021-07-15T03:31:01Z")

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Oh… Another announcement that doesn’t affect me whatsoever.

Back to winning I guess. Weird how this game projects itself like a major MMO but is basically a portfolio project compared to it’s competitors.

Image eve having 1 million players logged in, the opportunities for gameplay interaction… and it still would only be a fraction of what WoW has when that game is breathing it’s dying breaths.

For a game that is a capitalism simulator, it’s painfully obvious CCP doesn’t understand how to invest in itself.

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**Author:** ![Bae\_Vergarde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bae_vergarde/32/280923_2.png) [@Bae\_Vergarde](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bae_Vergarde)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/55 "2021-07-15T04:19:39Z")

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So the Alliance Tournament has an official discord server but regular Eve Online doesn’t have one. 😕

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**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/56 "2021-07-15T04:57:13Z")

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I’m not good enough for this event 😕

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**Author:** ![Luwc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luwc/32/281730_2.png) [@Luwc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luwc)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/57 "2021-07-15T05:48:45Z")

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Two things

1. About time, seriously ! I loved AT
2. I expected more from a big announcement etc.  
My reaction to the trailer was “wait thats it?”

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/58 "2021-07-15T06:01:13Z")

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> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#):
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> Also, I realize that various devs have put in an extraordinary amount of UNPAID work into running AT’s in years past

Were they laid off from CCP to run the development of the AT tech and systems? 🤔

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**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/59 "2021-07-15T06:25:57Z")

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Don’t worry, your not good enough to be in it. And if risking one ship is an issue for you this is not your event either.

Happy to see the AT back. The announcement was a bit of a let down though since my reaction was… that is it? Some of the channels I am in, this has some people took part in previous AT’s sub again. Because training and team session needs to get going. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/60 "2021-07-15T07:38:59Z")

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@CCP_Swift  
Looking back through the previous AT ruleset, I noticed a glaring omission. There were no provisions for mining frigates, mining barges, exhumers or industrial command ships in the points list, nor in the list of prohibited ships.

Will there be a possibility of seeing battle procurers, porpoises and orcas entering the fray?

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/61 "2021-07-15T07:39:23Z")

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To @CCP_Aurora and team: Thank you for reviving an EvE classic !!!  
Virtual flowers and fruit basket for you guys 😁

 ![enjoy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/f/c/afc912053ab29215e0d28929c23977a787ba8128.jpeg)

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