# Alliance Tournament XVII

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** alliance-tournament, official\
**Created:** [July 14, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955 "2021-07-14T18:54:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/62 "2021-07-15T07:53:31Z")

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> [@Hux\_Yarlo](#):
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> Back to winning I guess.

Yup, you deserve exactly what you won; nothing.  
It is exactly the right thing to reward those that have invested the most.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/63 "2021-07-15T10:51:23Z")

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Will there be studio with some people gathered live behind a desk, commenting how stupid or genius or risky the moves were?

Or just the usual low quality videoconference where the sound is pretty bad and people look like they just went straight from bed to sit behind computer?

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**Author:** ![Naarrff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naarrff/32/377762_2.png) [@Naarrff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naarrff)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/64 "2021-07-15T11:02:30Z")

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Well I hope CCP will actually reply to the rest of these posts instead of the ones that suit them. Look at the percentile here, it’s definately not as popular as they think it will be…

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/65 "2021-07-15T11:18:00Z")

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> [@Kaivarian\_Coste](#):
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> is the current eve generation so soft?

What does density have to do with this exactly?

Its not about being “soft” its about pointing out CCP is going to suffer more negativity doing it this way than if they had just dropped a dev blog about it, when you are using a video format to announce something people generally expect this to be something important like quadrant information or important messages, not the return of the AT lol

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**Author:** ![Naarrff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naarrff/32/377762_2.png) [@Naarrff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naarrff)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/66 "2021-07-15T11:19:01Z")

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The collective “WE” doesn’t match most of the rhetoric here. Also be careful with that “Everyone” big man, I have far more important things missing from this game than just the AT and I am sure from the reading of these post most people seem to be thinking “BORE OFF !!” Rather than YEAH !! They need to sort out the problems that they have caused rather than waving a naff carrot that’ll be won by the same people and solve nothing of the problems of your average player. CCP actually needs to reply to the decent versions of these posts rather than the ones from the ass lickers tickling and kissing thier consciences and smooth danglies… So people like @CCP_Swift and @CCP_Aurora should actually take note of what people currently think of the game and not the ass hats that are half way up thier asses… Have a great day guys 🙂

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/67 "2021-07-15T11:44:36Z")

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I remember the old AT’s, would talk with others in-game while watching it in Browser at the same time, was very cool.

Guess I’m glad it’s back, been way too much stuff removed from the game over the past years, definitely need to have stuff put back into the game, just not sure about the timing for this.

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/68 "2021-07-15T11:57:26Z")

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I much prefer entertainingly worded negativity than incoherent rants.  
Thank you. Perhaps you are the one to bring balance to the farce.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/69 "2021-07-15T12:13:39Z")

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Couldn’t have said it any better. I wish I could give you more likes.

That someone like Snowflake Tem would be scrubbing their backsides is no surprise, though, if you look at his corp name. The perfect guy to support CCP at whatever cost.

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**Author:** ![Hun\_Tra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hun_tra/32/511052_2.png) [@Hun\_Tra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hun_Tra)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/70 "2021-07-15T12:20:00Z")

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I’m glad AT is back, but I would be even more happier if FW got the love it deserves and needs.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Maxim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_maxim/32/283104_2.png) [@Mr\_Maxim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Maxim)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/71 "2021-07-15T12:27:58Z")

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Why, most posts are nothing but incoherent whining by people who couldn’t be any older than 5.

Why react to those?

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**Author:** ![Moriar\_theChosen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moriar_thechosen/32/368191_2.png) [@Moriar\_theChosen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moriar_theChosen)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/72 "2021-07-15T12:29:11Z")

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Hey man, I can like the AT.

And you are allowed to continue semantic trolling.

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**Author:** ![Tatiana\_Ursar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tatiana_ursar/32/280938_2.png) [@Tatiana\_Ursar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tatiana_Ursar)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/73 "2021-07-15T14:30:17Z")

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I won’t sub but I ll watch for sure

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_swift/32/381987_2.png) [@CCP\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Swift)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/74 "2021-07-15T14:41:03Z")

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The full rule-set with points will be listed Monday the 19th. But I have bad news, I don’t think ORE ships made the cut 😢

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/75 "2021-07-15T14:52:59Z")

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Talos is ORE at heart

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_swift/32/381987_2.png) [@CCP\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Swift)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/76 "2021-07-15T14:57:04Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Will there be studio

The plans are to have coverage from the incredibly talented community (along with some CCP guests) in our new studio.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_swift/32/381987_2.png) [@CCP\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Swift)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/77 "2021-07-15T14:57:23Z")

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I believe in you

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/78 "2021-07-15T14:58:03Z")

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> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#):
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> The perfect guy to support CCP at whatever cost.

My disagreements with CCP are on record. I just don’t repeat ad nauseam.  
but you are right, the Order does support the Great Architect in every aspect it can.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_swift/32/381987_2.png) [@CCP\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Swift)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/79 "2021-07-15T15:00:55Z")

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We have some very robust anti-collusion rules. Both the IGC and the Mordu’s Legion put a high value on competitive play

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/81 "2021-07-15T17:49:27Z")

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Don’t get me wrong, the at is awesome and I’m glad its back. If you could do us all a favor though and answer just one question we’d be ecstatic.

1. Why now? You could’ve flipped this same  
switch 2 years ago. Please feel free to answer with as much detail as is possible.

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**Author:** ![ntopios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ntopios/32/253890_2.png) [@ntopios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ntopios)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alliance-tournament-xvii/319955/82 "2021-07-15T18:27:15Z")

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can we have matteral or kenneth feld or that expert china guy who knows everything?

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