# Allow Black ops BS and Covert ops Frigates in built Local Immunity **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [February 15, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022 "2020-02-15T14:09:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shark\_Bait](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shark_bait/32/174708_2.png) [@Shark\_Bait](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shark_Bait)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/1 "2020-02-15T14:09:11Z")
This Feature would increase activity in Null and would keep the anti blackout crabs happy because they will still have there local chat. edit. Also allow black ops BS to fit covert ops cloaks thanks ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/2 "2020-02-15T14:14:44Z")
> [@Shark\_Bait](#): > > Allow Blackops BS and Covert ops Frigates in built Local Immunity Could you please rephrase this to me, before I spit out an unvalid “no, go away”. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Bait](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shark_bait/32/174708_2.png) [@Shark\_Bait](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shark_Bait)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/3 "2020-02-15T14:19:05Z")
No. I cant be f!cked to rephrase. took me ages to come up with that. sorry ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/4 "2020-02-15T14:38:56Z")
What’s your native tongue anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/5 "2020-02-15T14:43:02Z")
Are you trying to say you’d like covert ops frigates and black ops ships to have a “bonus” where they would never appear in local, ever? And, this native bonus would allow them to perform their stated functions of covert ops behind the scenes activity while giving ratters and miners, etc., a functioning, but effectively diminished local? ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Bait](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shark_bait/32/174708_2.png) [@Shark\_Bait](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shark_Bait)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/6 "2020-02-15T14:46:21Z")
yes. nail on head ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/7 "2020-02-15T14:49:46Z")
> [@Sere\_O\_Asis](#): > > Are you trying to say you’d like covert ops frigates and black ops ships to have a “bonus” where they would never appear in local, ever? And, this native bonus would allow them to perform their stated functions of covert ops behind the scenes activity while giving ratters and miners, etc., a functioning, but effectively diminished local? Should have thrown in my “no, go away” … shouldn’t have doubted. ---
**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/8 "2020-02-15T15:22:41Z")
I would think this effectively invalidates the krabbing playstyle. What are your reasons against it? ---
**Author:** ![Ellison\_Onizuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ellison_onizuka/32/314780_2.png) [@Ellison\_Onizuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ellison_Onizuka)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/9 "2020-02-15T15:30:58Z")
Do you mean local or D-scan? ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/10 "2020-02-15T17:23:20Z")
I mean, it’s not too late ---
**Author:** ![Voss\_Thrilk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/voss_thrilk/32/296413_2.png) [@Voss\_Thrilk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Voss_Thrilk)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/11 "2020-02-15T17:38:48Z")
Because BLOPs and Stealth Bombers can’t kill crabs now? Maybe it is just you. Maybe you should git gooder at BLOPs. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/12 "2020-02-15T20:24:22Z")
> [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](#): > > I would think this effectively invalidates the krabbing playstyle. Why would you want that? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/13 "2020-02-15T20:25:51Z")
> [@Sasha\_Viderzei](#): > > I mean, it’s not too late A “no, go away” is always right on time. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/15 "2020-02-15T22:28:02Z")
> [@Shark\_Bait](#): > > yes. nail on head Correct me if im wrong, Its been a while since I flew a covops or blackops ship, but i believe, again, i could be wrong, I believe they have this module where you become invisible and unscannable in space? I could be wrong though. So you want Covops ships not to appear in space, or in chat? That seems a little too convenient. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/16 "2020-02-15T22:29:28Z")
You aren’t wrong and yes he does mean they don’t appear in local. Bc d1ck. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/17 "2020-02-16T11:16:28Z")
This older thread may interest you. > [@Brainstorming Blackops gameplay: How can it evolve and improve?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/brainstorming-blackops-gameplay-how-can-it-evolve-and-improve/154429): > > Black ops as a whole, not just the ship class, is stagnant and lacking. The playstyle is underutilized outside of bomber runs and the occasional pubstomp drops here and there. Looking at the current KBs, blops battleships have the most presence on kills of explorers, ratters and indies. But how can we evolve and improve the gameplay? how can we bring more players to it, and how can we make it more lucrative to try out? One of the major issues is the black ops battleships, which are often out… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/18 "2020-02-16T16:16:58Z")
This Topic has been moved to Player Features and Ideas Discussion ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/19 "2020-02-16T17:22:37Z")
> [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](#): > > I would think this effectively invalidates the krabbing playstyle. What are your reasons against it? ■■■■■■■■ theory craft -1 ---
**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/20 "2020-02-16T22:15:01Z")
Thank you for your constructive feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022/21 "2020-02-17T10:30:23Z")
> [@Voss\_Thrilk](#): > > Maybe you should git gooder at BLOPs. Out of curiosity, were you telling the krabs to git gud when they were having a meltdown during blackout? Honestly, it’s not the worst idea as it is a compromise between those one both sides of the blackout debate, would make eve more dangerous, and really hurt the botters. Of course, the nullbears won’t like it because everyone is for adding content drivers and making more ships explode… as long as it’s not them that’s the content and it’s not their ships that are doing the exploding. Players don’t want to make Eve more dangerous; they want to make it more dangerous for the other guy. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-black-ops-bs-and-covert-ops-frigates-in-built-local-immunity/220022.md?page=2)