# Allow Capital Ships, Supercarriers, and Titans in Highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [August 25, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705 "2019-08-25T19:48:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/401 "2020-01-14T14:26:45Z")
Why would I? What I’m saying is that it’s done that way on purpose. They are not designed to be equal. It’s not an imbalance, it’s the way they were designed to be. > [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > And the fact that nullsec now has a concord like capital umbrella means that the game is unbalanced now, a buff to highsec is what we need to equalize the different sectors. You are comparing a player-made supercapital umbrella designed to help other players get help in case they get dropped that only works in a very limited area of nullsec and only if you belong to that particular coalition to a NPC-controlled all-seeing, always working police that WILL with 100% certainty kill the one that breaks the rules of aggression in highsec. Yup. Totally the same thing… ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/402 "2020-01-14T15:49:38Z")
Lets make the meta Titan and Rorq. It’ll be great for player retention, not so complicated, they only have to train for one ship. Unreal lack of foresight. -1 ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/403 "2020-01-14T20:15:42Z")
> Why would I? What I’m saying is that it’s done that way on purpose. They are not designed to be equal. It’s not an imbalance, it’s the way they were designed to be. The regions were made to be different, but not to be completely lopsided and unbalanced. > You are comparing a player-made supercapital umbrella designed to help other players get help in case they get dropped that only works in a very limited area of nullsec and only if you belong to that particular coalition to a NPC-controlled all-seeing, always working police that WILL with 100% certainty kill the one that breaks the rules of aggression in highsec. > > Yup. Totally the same thing… Yes because that umbrella that gives those coalitions the advantage negates all of the ‘balance’ and justification for such lopsided power between nullsec and highsec. When nullsec starts to get systems that effectively recreate concord, then highsec requires a buff to compensate. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/404 "2020-01-14T20:16:54Z")
> Lets make the meta Titan and Rorq. > > It’ll be great for player retention, not so complicated, they only have to train for one ship. > > Unreal lack of foresight. > > -1 You could also remove capitals from the game, if your so concerned about the titan and rorqual meta. But that is unlikely to happen, so the meta should be accessible to all players throughout highsec/lowsec/nullsec and even wormholes with some modifications. Large capital ships being destroyed helps the game. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/405 "2020-01-14T20:20:06Z")
**NO SKI BOATS IN THE KIDDIE POOL** ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/406 "2020-01-14T22:56:10Z")
> NO SKI BOATS IN THE KIDDIE POOL You talking about nullsec? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/407 "2020-01-14T23:58:28Z")
Funny, but wrong care bears, the thread is about highsec right? 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/408 "2020-01-15T01:21:00Z")
> Funny, but wrong care bears, the thread is about highsec right? 😜 Indeed it is. But if you hate carebears, where’s the anti nullsec isk making rhetoric? I hear talk of highsec being a kiddie pool, where’s nullsec in the conversation? Or are you only for keeping highsec nerfed, while nullsec should be buffed? ---
**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/409 "2020-01-15T01:22:43Z")
Nobody in this thread has said anything about buffing nullsec. We all realize how harmful to the game the current situations is. Adding capitals to high would only make it worse. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/410 "2020-01-15T01:26:54Z")
> Nobody in this thread has said anything about buffing nullsec. We all realize how harmful to the game the current situations is. Adding capitals to high would only make it worse. Then why not argue for removal of capital ships from the game. You yourself said right above how you see how harmful the situation is, but since the genie is out of the bottle, why not allow highsec to get genies too, allowing them to throw their weight with nullsec? How will it make the situation worse, so far you have one group of players with ships that vastly outclass the other, and instead of favoring an equalization of ship availability, you want highsec to not have them, thus forever putting them at a disadvantage compared to nullsec. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/411 "2020-01-15T02:48:41Z")
That you think different areas of the game should be equal really shows how unqualified your opinions are. ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/412 "2020-01-15T05:18:10Z")
Why should we allow people like you to have capitals, if you arent even willing to be directly wardecced so you can lose said capitals? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/413 "2020-01-15T15:03:11Z")
> That you think different areas of the game should be equal really shows how unqualified your opinions are. The gameplay is different, and the actual regions are not going to be equal, but the tools available should be equal. A wrench is a wrench, whether your out on the frontier or in the city, why should you limit city dwellers from having wrenches? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/414 "2020-01-15T15:04:16Z")
> Why should we allow people like you to have capitals, if you arent even willing to be directly wardecced so you can lose said capitals? Because that’s a personal choice, you can attack my capital when its flagged, or through bumping/ganks, you don’t have a ‘right’ to concordless pvp in highsec whenever you want, use the mechanics of highsec to do pvp, such as shooting structures in holding corps etc. ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/415 "2020-01-15T16:00:07Z")
Great! See you thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/416 "2020-01-15T17:12:39Z")
> Great! See you thursday. Sounds good, but I sadly lack a capital at the present time ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/417 "2020-01-15T17:54:42Z")
Happy cakeday!! Also death to caps. ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/418 "2020-01-15T19:32:06Z")
That’s ok, your war deccing alt corp has a structure that we’ll remove for you anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/419 "2020-01-15T20:05:44Z")
> That’s ok, your war deccing alt corp has a structure that we’ll remove for you anyway. Sounds good, see you then. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/420 "2020-01-15T20:50:41Z")
> Happy cakeday!! > > Also death to caps. If they are removed from the game then that would balance out the schism currently between highsec and nullsec, I have no problem with that if it occurs. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705.md?page=20) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705.md?page=22)