# Allow Capital Ships, Supercarriers, and Titans in Highsec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [August 25, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705 "2019-08-25T19:48:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/733 "2020-02-20T23:55:53Z")

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lowsec space = not instant killed by CONCORD

nullsec space = not instant killed by CONCORD

highsec space = instant killed by CONCORD

CONCORD should be removed from HS to make it like LS/NS

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/734 "2020-02-20T23:56:15Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> Nope, highsec space is where civilization is, the seat of the four empires. If you want no concord you go to lowsec or nullsec or wormhole space.
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> Highsec players deserve to fly capitals, having capitals only for those two regions is a nerf to highsec.

Nope, highsec space is where civilization is, the seat of the four empires. If you want to fly capital ships that could threaten the sovereignty of the empires you go to lowsec or nullsec or womhole space.

Highsec players deserve to shoot anyone they want without CONCORD, having freedom to shoot only for those two regions is a nerf to highsec.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/735 "2020-02-20T23:56:25Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> Highsec players deserve

Why do they “deserve” them?

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/736 "2020-02-21T00:53:05Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> lowsec space = full capital access
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> nullsec space = full capital access
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> highsec space = no capital access
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> Should be full capital access for all 3

lowsec space = shoot anyone anytime you want no CONCORD

nullsec space = shoot anyone anytime you want no CONCORD

highsec space = cannot shoot anyone anytime you want without CONCORD

Should be full shoot anyone anytime you want no CONCORD for all 3.

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**Author:** ![Bronson\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bronson_hughes/32/189075_2.png) [@Bronson\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bronson_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/737 "2020-02-21T01:39:19Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> > [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> > Highsec players deserve
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> Why do they “deserve” them?

_ **Quoting this for emphasis.** _

Nobody deserves anything in EvE. _You ■■■■■■■ earn it._

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/738 "2020-02-21T02:02:15Z")

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> _ **Quoting this for emphasis.** _
> 
> Nobody deserves anything in EvE. _You ■■■■■■■ earn it._

Nope you pay a sub, you have the right to recommend positive changes to the game you pay for. Or does one have to earn a good product or service when you purchase it in your eyes?

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/739 "2020-02-21T02:03:09Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> Why do they “deserve” them?

Because nullsec and lowsec both have access to them, and since those players pay the same sub in order to be able to fly them as highsec players, highsec players thus deserve those ships.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/740 "2020-02-21T02:03:36Z")

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> lowsec space = shoot anyone anytime you want no CONCORD
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> nullsec space = shoot anyone anytime you want no CONCORD
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> highsec space = cannot shoot anyone anytime you want without CONCORD
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> Should be full shoot anyone anytime you want no CONCORD for all 3.

Nope, remember different region diversity, or are you against this now?

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/741 "2020-02-21T02:03:37Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> you have the right to recommend positive changes to the game you pay

Just as we have the right to point out the flaws of stupid ideas…

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/742 "2020-02-21T02:04:33Z")

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> Just as we have the right to point out the flaws of stupid ideas…

Sure, but tell me where the idea lacks positivity, it makes CCP money, improves the lives of highsec residents, and helps connect the different regions of the game. A better sandbox in all ways.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/743 "2020-02-21T02:05:41Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> since those players pay the same sub

They pay to play EVE, not fly in NS/LS…they CHOOSE to do that as you CHOOSE to hide in HS.

You are free to fly right next them but you don’t…

ps. there is no such thing as a “HS player”.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/744 "2020-02-21T02:05:51Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Nope, highsec space is where civilization is, the seat of the four empires. If you want to fly capital ships that could threaten the sovereignty of the empires you go to lowsec or nullsec or womhole space.
> 
> Highsec players deserve to shoot anyone they want without CONCORD, having freedom to shoot only for those two regions is a nerf to highsec.

nope, easily fixed by limiting doomsdays or superweapons, no sov threatened. Also highsec is unique in restricted pvp, that is it’s style.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/745 "2020-02-21T02:06:12Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> it makes CCP money

You can’t predict the future…so don’t.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/746 "2020-02-21T02:06:20Z")

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> They pay to play EVE, not fly in NS/LS…they CHOOSE to do that as you CHOOSE to hide in HS.
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> You are free to fly right next them but you don’t…
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> ps. there is no such thing as a “HS player”.

You choose the area of the game you want to live, you disagreeing with that is irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/747 "2020-02-21T02:06:37Z")

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> You can’t predict the future…so don’t.

I mentioned how it does, tell me how it doesn’t

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/748 "2020-02-21T02:07:14Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> You choose the area of the game you want to live

…and that choose doesn’t not mean you are entitled to things from other areas…if you want those things, go there. you disagreeing with that is irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/749 "2020-02-21T02:07:43Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> tell me how it doesn’t

I also can’t predict the future…see how that works?

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**Author:** ![Bronson\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bronson_hughes/32/189075_2.png) [@Bronson\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bronson_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/750 "2020-02-21T02:09:04Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> Nope you pay a sub, you have the right to recommend positive changes to the game you pay for. Or does one have to earn a good product or service when you purchase it in your eyes?

There’s a difference between having good customer service included in your subscription price and having guaranteed, risk-free, end-game content included in your subscription price. An utterly massive difference.

What you’re asking for is the _ **ultimate form of Pay-To-Win** _, which isn’t exactly popular in the EvE community.

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**Author:** ![Bronson\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bronson_hughes/32/189075_2.png) [@Bronson\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bronson_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/751 "2020-02-21T02:10:58Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> > They pay to play EVE, not fly in NS/LS…they CHOOSE to do that as you CHOOSE to hide in HS.
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> > You are free to fly right next them but you don’t…
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> > ps. there is no such thing as a “HS player”.
> 
> You choose the area of the game you want to live, you disagreeing with that is irrelevant.

You choose an areas of the game you want to live in. _ **That means you abide by the rules established for those areas.** _

Your arguments are just getting weaker and weaker here.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/752 "2020-02-21T02:19:05Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> I also can’t predict the future…see how that works?

Didn’t answer my question

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