# Allow Capital Ships, Supercarriers, and Titans in Highsec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [August 25, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705 "2019-08-25T19:48:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/793 "2020-02-21T03:38:49Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> This is true for every single highsec station capable of building supercapitals.

Think your overlooking something, every keepstar has at least one major alliance backing it, at least in high sec. most have multiple alliances backing them.  
Good try though!

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/794 "2020-02-21T03:48:31Z")

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And if a non-NS group were to try and start building supers/titians, what do you think might happen?

Keep in mind that the “no aggression agreement” you mentioned earlier would be threatened by that 3rd party…

Good try though!

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/795 "2020-02-21T03:54:53Z")

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> [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](#):
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> Think your overlooking something, every keepstar has at least one major alliance backing it, at least in high sec. most have multiple alliances backing them.

JFC, are you even bothering to read what I wrote? There’s a reason I listed two possibilities for each station: be part of an existing major nullsec power, or be destroyed. Farmer trash like ICANP will not be part of an existing major nullsec power and will be destroyed if they try to build supercapitals.

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**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/796 "2020-02-21T03:58:26Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> Keep in mind that the “no aggression agreement” you mentioned earlier would be threatened by that 3rd party…

The non agression agreement would most likely stand, with support from test, pandemic, and frat to name a few, however those individual alliances that make up the corp would have the liberty of engaging any “threats”, as they have had the liberty of doing that long before you entered the chat

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**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/797 "2020-02-21T03:59:41Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Farmer trash like ICANP will not be part of an existing major nullsec power and will be destroyed if they try to build supercapitals.

Can you remind me when we said we were gonna build a super capital shipyard?  
Because i dont recall anybody asking…?

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/798 "2020-02-21T04:02:47Z")

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> [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](#):
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> Can you remind me when we said we were gonna build a super capital shipyard?

As a highsec group you won’t even get to fly capitals, let alone build supers. So no need to ask really.

I hope Sabus wins EVE. That would be a win-win for everyone.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/799 "2020-02-21T04:03:09Z")

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> Your request is simply - lowsec and nullsec have capitals, so highsec should too.

That is the foundation yes, you keep trying to attack the argument when I mention that lowsec and nullsec both have capital access, even though they are different. Then deflect.

Capitals should be in highsec, they were before, and the reason they were removed no longer applies. Thus they should be added again, for the betterment of the game and of highsec.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/800 "2020-02-21T04:03:23Z")

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> [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](#):
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> would have the liberty of engaging any “threats”

Which means that you folks would be debris PDQ…unless you hid in NPC stations…oh wait, you are also asking for that now too…never mind.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/801 "2020-02-21T04:04:00Z")

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> As a highsec group you won’t even get to fly capitals, let alone build supers. So no need to ask really.

Well the point of this thread is so that we can fly capitals.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/802 "2020-02-21T04:04:43Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> Which means that you folks would be debris PDQ…unless you hid in NPC stations…oh wait, you are also asking for that now too…never mind.

Also remember, highsec mechanics don’t allow you to just shoot willy nilly. If safety is green I don’t see how everyone will be ‘debris.’

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/803 "2020-02-21T04:07:58Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> Also remember, highsec mechanics don’t allow you to just shoot willy nilly. If safety is green I don’t see how everyone will be ‘debris.’

Becasue if you can’t build in NPC stations then that station can be WD’ed…and destroyed in short order. That’s why you folks also want to be able to build in NPC stations…

More slippery slopes…

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/804 "2020-02-21T04:08:37Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> you keep trying to attack the argument when I mention that lowsec and nullsec both have capital access

No need to attack that. It’s a true statement.

Having them in highsec is never going to happen so cry all you like. Write to CSM members all you like. Spam evemails all you like.

CCP aren’t going to change the current restrictions and yes, the reason for implementing cyno inhibition across highsec and moving many capitals out to low and null in the first place is just as valid now as it was then.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/805 "2020-02-21T04:15:02Z")

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> [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](#):
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> Can you remind me when we said we were gonna build a super capital shipyard?

Your idiot CEO’s supposed point here is to build up a supercapital fleet and challenge the nullsec powers. In his own words:

> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> Once capitals are allowed in highsec we can definitely start stockpiling capitals for a possible invasion into nullsec.

(Of course we know the reality is that you are correct, he isn’t going to do any of that, he just wants to buy a highsec farming ship that can’t be suicide ganked.)

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**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/806 "2020-02-21T04:17:00Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Your idiot CEO’s supposed point here is to build up a supercapital fleet and challenge the nullsec powers. In his own words:

Lmfao this guy actually took “invading nullsec” seriously. And if we wanted to stockpile capitals we could do so easily, you dont have to build a capital to buy it.  
Good effort though!

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/807 "2020-02-21T04:18:50Z")

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> [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](#):
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> Lmfao this guy actually took “invading nullsec” seriously. And if we wanted to stockpile capitals we could do so easily, you dont have to build a capital to buy it.  
> Good effort though!

Excellent, thank you for admitting that your CEO is lying about his supposed desire to invade nullsec and is just using that as an excuse to demand highsec buffs. I’m screenshotting this for future use.

(We all knew he was lying, but now I have proof I can throw at him every time he says it.)

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/808 "2020-02-21T04:20:12Z")

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> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#):
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> I’ve changed my mind.
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> I now think it should be as OP wants.
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> I strongly advocate ccp issues every member of sabus’ corp an outfitted cap or supercap of their choice and automagically gives them all the skills to fly it at V as well. Only stipulation is that they all must immediately launch a crusade against nullsec.

> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> You have yourself a deal

> [@How To Wardec Non-War-Eligible Corps](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/193):
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> It wont be Sabus leading the fleets in the war. it will be me. i have only been playing eve for a short time, and im learning game mechanics and such. but i have close to 15 years in other mmo games as a pvp leader, and of all the ICANP members im the one pushing for war

> [@How To Wardec Non-War-Eligible Corps](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/217):
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> we have about 10-15 active pvpers.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/809 "2020-02-21T04:23:15Z")

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> [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](#):
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> Lmfao this guy actually took “invading nullsec” seriously.

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**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/810 "2020-02-21T04:23:23Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> your CEO is lying

Well not exactly. It’s certainly on our list of objectives, but its kinda far down there atm, so its not taken as seriously as say, putting a foothold in syndicate or something like that

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/811 "2020-02-21T04:23:46Z")

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> [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](#):
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> Well not exactly. It’s certainly on our list of objectives, but its kinda far down there atm, so its not taken as seriously as say, putting a foothold in syndicate or something like that

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**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladamir_kowasaki/32/188069_2.png) [@Vladamir\_Kowasaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladamir_Kowasaki)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/812 "2020-02-21T04:24:05Z")

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Soccer fan huh lmao

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